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Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Indrajala » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:39 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:34 am

. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Indrajala » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:38 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:02 am

Isn't it just like this with global warming, too? The scientists and, secretly, the politicians know - as do some people in the general public. Others - in most societies the majority, I'm afraid (witness the US or the Eastern Europe) - don't 'believe', don't give a flying frak or are absolutely convinced there's some occult conspiracy of Evil Ecologists from Outer Space manipulating them out of their wallets. And the world goes on, pretty much as if nothing was happening.
. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Indrajala » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:15 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Malcolm » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:41 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Indrajala » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:36 pm

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:59 pm

It is amazing the notions that folks worry about.

Buddhism began and flourished under feudal or monarchical totalitarianism. There was no oil crisis, nor oil then.

Unless there is a direct, lethal threat to kill Buddhists & destroy our monasteries, surrounding social conditions are of little moment.
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Indrajala » Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:30 pm

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:20 pm

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Malcolm » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:27 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Heruka » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:31 pm

Abiotic Oil


The abiotic oil formation theory suggests that crude oil is the result of naturally occurring and possibly ongoing geological processes. This theory was developed in the Soviet Union during the Cold War, as the Union needed to be self sufficient in terms of producing its own energy. The science behind the theory is sound and is based on experimental evidence in both the laboratory and in the field. This theory has helped to identify and therefore develop large numbers of gas and oil deposits. Examples of such fields are the South Khylchuyu field and the controversial Sakhalin II field.

In its simplest form, the theory is that carbon present in the magma beneath the crust reacts with hydrogen to form methane as well as a raft of other mainly alkane hydrocarbons. The reactions are more complicated than this, with several intermediate stages. Particular mineral rocks such as granite and other silicon based rocks act as catalysts, which speed up the reaction without actually becoming involved or consumed in the process.

Experiments have shown that under extreme conditions of heat and pressure it is possible to convert iron oxide, calcium carbonate and water into methane, with hydrocarbons containing up to 10 carbon atoms being produced by Russian scientists last century and confirmed in recent US experiments. The absence of large quantities of free gaseous oxygen in the magma prevents the hydrocarbons from burning and therefore forming the lower energy state molecule carbon dioxide. The conditions present in the Earth's mantle would easily be sufficient for these small hydrocarbon chains to polymerise into the longer chain molecules found in crude oil.


i.e. not finite biomass fossils at all.
no finite biomass, no peak oil.

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Malcolm » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:43 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby kirtu » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:59 pm



"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Heruka » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:24 am

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Quiet Heart » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:28 am

:smile:
After reading some of the comments I really don't know exactly what to say first!
So I guess I'll start this way: the problem is much bigger and more widespread than mere "Peak Oil".
Of course, that's one aspect of it....but actually only a small one.
Back around 1900 (approximately) a Science Fiction story called, "The Machine Stops", was writen by (I believe) H.G.Wells.
(Yes, THAT H.G. Wells)
The basic premise of the book is that in a future in which all their society is dependent on a vast machine, without who they can litterly not exist....that Machine is stopping.
That is the most subversive thing you can possibly say in that society, and to merely mention it's possibility will litterly get you killed.
Today, in the "developed" countries to even question the linked concepts of Democracy, Capitalisim, a Free Enterprise Economy, and a Continued and Prosperous Economic Future For All are like that Machine.
Casting any doubt on it's continued and eternal existance is not to be tolerated by the Social and Financial power elite....because the very existance of that power elite is dependent on the continued belief by those that are ruled that the power elite has found the magic answer and therefore their Machine will go one forever.
As you probably guessed, I don't believe in that theory....and I am here to tell you, "The Machine Stops".
I personally believe that anyone who can't see this happening...no matter how long it will take (that's irrelevant anyhow)...must have his or her head far up there own posterier to see anything but their own.....well you get my meaning.
And the changes...good or bad....brought about by the eventual stoppage of our Machine will be profound.
I do have some faith though in the abilty of human beings to adapt somehow to that change...but that eventual adaption may not be pleasent or pretty.
Since I am now 65, and I don't expect the change to happen before I pass on....I have to admit I'm probably not as worried about it as perhaps I should be.

But just to reiterate:

THE MACHINE STOPS, in fact it is stopping now.
Now do something about it.
:smile:

P.S. Maybe, next time, the Cockroaches will get it right?
Shame on you Shakyamuni for setting the precedent of leaving home.
Did you think it was not there--
in your wife's lovely face
in your baby's laughter?
Did you think you had to go elsewhere (simply) to find it?
from - Judyth Collin
The Layman's Lament
From What Book, 1998, p. 52
Edited by Gary Gach

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Heruka » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:36 am

actually the military industrial complex is a good indicator as to what governments see in the future, the military is heavily invested in drone and A.I. robot technology instead of oil based war machine, you cannot run an army at present without oil....lol or food ( army marches on its stomach )

that i think is the main highlight to watch.

why you think china buying up all comodities and mineral, and natural resources around the world?

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Malcolm » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:38 am





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Buddhism and Peak Oil

Postby Indrajala » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:55 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |


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