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Impermanency of Matter

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

Postby Mawkish1983 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:21 pm

Sorry, I would have typed more but I was being moaned at. I was just pointing out that a few of us here do have physics backgrounds. I wanted to avoid ontological discussions rooted in physics because this is a Buddhism forum, not a physics one (I think the OP mentioned they wanted Canonical sources too... but I might be mistaken). Interestingly, the question of the existence of matter is answered just as inconclusively and cryptically in physics as it appears to be to me in the Dhamma. So, to save many pages of non-Buddhist discussion about physics (which will ultimately lead to the same conclusion - or inconclusion - as the Buddhadhamma) can I suggest we put physics discussions aside?

I'm reminded of the ignoble search, of which this discussion reminds me.

Edit: Repeated myself in my last sentence because I'm still being moaned at. I have to go. I'll leave the repetitive sentence because, upon reading it back, it made me chuckle. I'll check back later. Can someone give a reference and/or quote from the ignoble search? Also, I'm reminded of what the Buddha taught are not fitting topics of discussion for Bhikkhus: this being one of them.

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

Postby Kenshou » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:17 am

I've got nothing against quantum mechanics, nor do I really understand it, but there seem to be a lot of folks (who aren't physicists) that use it to justify all sorts of weird new-age ideas. Ugh.

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:11 am

The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

Bhikku Bodhi.

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

Postby chownah » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:29 pm

Maybe some of you people should study some physics.....then you would understand that the impermanence of matter is pretty much a scientific fact as well as a Buddhist teaching. Alot of people have no qualms about talking about how their experiences prove this or that etc......so why can't some of us who have a better education talk about our experiences in the realms of science....science is after all just one kind of human experience and is often way more perceptive and revealing then the average persons musings.
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Re: Impermanency of Matter

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:06 pm

Richard Feynman was a great man, and totally free from arrogance and pomposity.
The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

Postby Mawkish1983 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:31 pm

:focus: ? :)

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

Postby Spiny Norman » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:45 am

Doesn't "sabbhe sankhara anicca" answer the question?

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Re: Impermanency of Matter

Postby robertk » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:55 am

all rupas (matter) are infintesimally tiny and arising and passing away completely every moment . The texts say billions of moments of rupa arise and pass away in a flash of lighting. Nama - all the other khandas- arise and disappear even faster.


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