sangyey wrote:I venture, from the point of veiw of ultimate reality there never was such a thing as ignorance. From a conventional point of veiw I think that is how things have always been for us. Perhaps now is the time to do something better for ourselves with help from our teachers
I posit that being in the natural state of clear light nature in the beggining and then jumping into ignorance is not what happened
because to locate the ignorance (for example "out there") is the very ignorance itself.