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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:22 pm 
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What do you guys think about this new book? Is anyone here who red it already?

A Torch Lighting the Way to Freedom: Complete Instructions on the Preliminary Practices
http://www.amazon.com/Torch-Lighting-Way-Freedom-Instructions/dp/159030909X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324592466&sr=8-1


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:35 am 
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I've read it. Its really good. Its very clear, direct and concise in regards to the foundation that should be established prior to practicing Ngondro such as the conduct of the student and guru, as well as the qualifications and conditions of these. Then it gives explanations about not only the state of mind, intention, and so forth for the Ngondro practices, but also the visualizations and so forth involved. At the end the practices are arranged together in order, without interspersed commentary. And the Padmakara translation group does a good job translating from what I hear.

It was originally recommended to me by a Lama, and I'm glad that it was.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:05 am 
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wisdom wrote:
I've read it. Its really good. Its very clear, direct and concise in regards to the foundation that should be established prior to practicing Ngondro such as the conduct of the student and guru, as well as the qualifications and conditions of these. Then it gives explanations about not only the state of mind, intention, and so forth for the Ngondro practices, but also the visualizations and so forth involved. At the end the practices are arranged together in order, without interspersed commentary. And the Padmakara translation group does a good job translating from what I hear.

It was originally recommended to me by a Lama, and I'm glad that it was.


Thank you. So the structure is quite similar to WOMPT?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:15 pm 
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Yep!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:16 pm 
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This text is not just a commentary on ngondro, but includes extensive commentary on so many aspects of the path, from conduct towards the Guru, how to listen to a Dharma teaching, etc. etc. that it should not be missed even if one has completed ngondro long ago and doesn't plan to do it again.

Also, just a clarification: this is HH Dudjom Rinpoche's own commentary on the LONG Dudjom Tersar Ngondro.

Often, what we are given in the west by various Dudjom lineage masters is the "concise" Dudjom ngondro to practice. In addition to the concise ngondro, there is the elaborate one, which has different melodies and is longer with much more detail. Obviously, the commentary by HH on the long one will be immeasurably of great benefit also for those practicing the concise one, (just as Thinley Norbu Rinpoche's commentary on the concise ngondro would benefit someone engaged in the long one)--and for anyone practicing any ngondro in general-- but I wanted to clarify because if you look at the chapters you will see the order goes 4 thoughts--> refuge--> vajrasattva --> mandala ---> guru yoga whereas in the concise the mandala offering goes before the vajrasattva accumulation. There are a number of differences also concerning visualization, etc. that should be clarified with one's Lama. I know people that begin with the concise ngondro, and then move onto the long one as a second ngondro..

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:19 pm 
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I just finished reading this book. As well as the above comments, I have to say that I am very grateful to have had the opportunity to read this. This is an essential book for me and it is indeed very clear. I recommend it.
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