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Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

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Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

Postby Prasadachitta » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:41 am

"May the virtue in my acting thus go towards the alleviation of the suffering of all beings. My personality throughout my existences, my possessions, and the virtue of my actions of body speech and mind; may I give them up without regard to myself for the benefit of all beings. Just as the earth and other elements are functional in many ways to the infinite number of beings inhabiting limitless space and time, so may I become that which pacifies all beings situated throughout space and time so long as all have not attained to peace."

I think this comes from Shantideva who is a popular Figure from the Indian Mahayana. I generally get my conceptual understanding of what the Dhamma is from Pali suttas and there is allot I dont really resonate with when it comes to Shantideva, but I do regularly dedicate my practice along the lines I quoted above. So.... Im wondering If any Theravada practitioners find anything about this "prayer" that you think is out of line with the Pali Suttas. Of course the references to what is mine and myself are spoken of in the colloquial sense and not in any way meant to pertain to any ultimately self sustaining entity's.

Thanks...

Metta

Gabriel

PS: As you can probably tell I use "virtue" rather than "merit" because of these definition's(merriam-webster.com) of virtue...
1: conformity to a standard of right
3: the beneficial quality or power of a thing

Where as merit is defined as...
1: the qualities or actions that constitute the basis of one's deserts
2: spiritual credit held to be earned by performance of righteous acts and to ensure future benefits
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Re: Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

Postby Jechbi » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:51 am

I think it's wonderful.
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Re: Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:26 am

theres a chant we do everyday at temple that is a dedication of merit
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Re: Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

Postby mountain » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:21 am

Gabe,
Perhaps you have a Theravada practice and a Mahayana heart. Thats wonderful to have such ideas. I am a devotee of Kuan Yin. At the end of each meditation session I recite the six sylable mantra and dedicate the merit to all sentient beings.
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Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:22 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

Postby mountain » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:41 am

Well its not so easy to put in a few words. Early on I met both Theravada and Mahayana monks. Serendipity perhaps. The sound of Om Mani Padme Hum always felt pleasing.
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Postby Prasadachitta » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:29 pm

"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:28 am

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Re: Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

Postby Heavenstorm » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:05 pm

Read the metta sutta, guys, you will be surprised at the familiarity at some of the methods/practices that it strongly recommends. No doubt, there is a high chance that the dedication from Mahayana practices shares a similar source somewhere in the past.

And metta is one of the ten perfections for the Bodhisattva path in Theravada.

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Postby Prasadachitta » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:37 pm

"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: Is this Mahayana virtue dedication in line with Theravada?

Postby cooran » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:12 pm

Hello all,

This merit-sharing ceremony, according to the Tirokuddha Sutta, was introduced by the Buddha himself in order to help King Bimbisara of Magadha in sharing merits with his deceased relatives who had been reborn among the spirits who subsist on the offerings of others.

Then there is this:
The Significance of Transference of Merits to the Departed
http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Clubs/buddhi ... da/307.htm
but also:
Merits - Can they be transferred? ~ By Ven Aggacitta
http://sasanarakkha.org/dhamma/2007/03/ ... erred.html

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