Gampopa work?

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Gampopa work?

Postby kirtu » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:07 pm

This title is supposed to be from Jewel Ornament of Liberation and is apparently the Chapter 1 title:

From this text, the title: ལེའུ་དང་པོ་་བདེ་གཤག་སྙིང་པོ

ལེའུ་དང = chapter one
= cause ?
བདེ = bliss
གཤག = (v) to chop, split
སྙིང་པོ = essence, womb, core (why is matrix suggested as a term?)

Is བདེ་གཤག་སྙིང་པོ a term for Tathgathagarbha?

Tathagatha is དེ་བཞིན་གཤེགས་པ . Is the text in error?

Thanks!

Kirt
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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
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Re: Gampopa work?

Postby Paul » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:25 pm

Matrix is a synonym for womb.
Look at the unfathomable spinelessness of man: all the means he's been given to stay alert he uses, in the end, to ornament his sleep. – Rene Daumal
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Re: Gampopa work?

Postby kirtu » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:34 pm

Paul wrote:Matrix is a synonym for womb.


Thanks but the ་སྙིང་པོ part isn't a problem. It's squaring the line between and ་སྙིང་པོ with Gampopa's title.

Kirt
Kirt's Tibetan Translation Notes

"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: Gampopa work?

Postby tantular » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:52 am

You missed a drengbu: the title is ལེའུ་དང་པོ་རྒྱུ་བདེ་གཤེགས་སྙིང་པོ་ "Chapter 1: The Cause, Buddha-nature"

བདེ་གཤེགས་སྙིང་པོ་ is sugatagarbha. དེ་བཞིན་གཤེགས་པ་ (tathāgata) and བདེ་བར་གཤེགས་པ་ (sugata) are easily confused in their abbreviated forms དེ་གཤེགས་ and བདེ་གཤེགས་. To add to the confusion, in Sanskrit the standard term is tathāgatagarbha, whereas in Tibetan it's sugatagarbha.


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