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confusion

Postby Hunter » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:59 pm

I am confused on the subject of Saṅkhāra. I dont understand what a volitional formation is. I know that volition is like will or decision making. But what is a Volitional, Mental, or Compositional Formation?
the Buddha said :

"Intention, monks, is karma, I say. Having willed, one acts through body, speech and mind."

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Re: confusion

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Re: confusion

Postby Hunter » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:43 pm

Im sorry but I am still confused. What I want to know, and this may help, is what is Sankhara Khandha.
the Buddha said :

"Intention, monks, is karma, I say. Having willed, one acts through body, speech and mind."

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Re: confusion

Postby bodom » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:47 pm

Anicca Vata Sankhara by Bhikkhu Bodhi
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ay_43.html

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: confusion

Postby bodom » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:58 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: confusion

Postby Hunter » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:06 pm

Thanks you very much Bodom!
the Buddha said :

"Intention, monks, is karma, I say. Having willed, one acts through body, speech and mind."

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Re: confusion

Postby O'seeker » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:25 pm

Will someone please give a dumbed-down example of a volitional formation and how it relates to the banana tree trunk as one of the aggregates?

From my understanding, it is one's MENTAL ambition to DO something and needing to realize that it is meaningless/empty/impermanent, correct?

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Re: confusion

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Re: confusion

Postby Vepacitta » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:02 pm

And to put an even simpler spin on it - sankharas can also be translated as mental formations or fabrications. Discursive thought for example, is a sankhara. Mental images - day dreaming - are sankharas. Naming - 'tree' 'ball' 'see dick and jane and spot run' - form of sankaras. I was reading some of Ven. Bodhi's notes in the Samyutta Nikaya about sankharas and he mentions that volition is a part of sankhara - and its usual translation - but it's not the entire deal. Sankharas are the other 'mental actions' that are apart from feeling, perception and consciousness.

You could look at it that the khanda of sankharas is comprised of various khandas of mental action.

Hope this helped a tad,

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Re: confusion

Postby Tex » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:11 pm

This might be the thread Mike was referring to:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4739
"To reach beyond fear and danger we must sharpen and widen our vision. We have to pierce through the deceptions that lull us into a comfortable complacency, to take a straight look down into the depths of our existence, without turning away uneasily or running after distractions." -- Bhikkhu Bodhi

"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." -- Heraclitus


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