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"His Holiness said the group is trying to protect living beings and environment, this is good, but the method should be non-violent and peaceful."

That is all.




” The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society respects the Dalai Lama and his guidance is of great value to the Society.”


That is all , folks.
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By environment reporter Sarah Clarke

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"A dead minke whale sits next to the Japanese whaling vessel Yushin Maru"

The sticking point remains over a proposal to overturn a 24-year ban on commercial whaling (Australian Customs Service, file photo)

Video: IWC deadlocked over resuming commercial whaling (Lateline)
Related Story: Whaling Commission asked to probe bribery claims
Related Story: Japan, Pacific nations deny whaling bribery claims
Related Story: Compromise won't end whale slaughter: Garrett
Related Link: Whaling: What's at stake?


Within an hour of the International Whaling Commission (IWC) opening in Morocco, official talks were suspended for two days.

Representatives from more than 80 nations had gathered for the annual IWC meeting, set to be the most controversial in years.
But the deputy chair of the IWC has called for private talks to break the deadlock.

Australia is concerned by the development and says it shuts down the official process which has been underway for two years.

The sticking point remains over a proposal to overturn a 24-year ban on commercial whaling.

The package has split the anti-whaling block, with Australia now at odds with some of its former allies.
"The moratorium must remain in place and what we see in the proposal would in fact be sanctioning of commercial whaling in the Southern Ocean," Australia's IWC Commissioner Donna Petrochenko said.

But the IWC says only limited commercial whaling would be allowed. In return, Japan must cut its quota in the Southern Ocean.
Under the draft proposal, Japan would be allowed to catch 120 whales a year in its coastal waters.

Mick McIntyre from Whales Alive says the deal has split the anti-whaling nations.
"This is a deal that's being supported by what we once called our allies," he said.
"Pro-conservation countries like the US and New Zealand - how did this happen?"

Most contentious is allowing Japan to kill 10 endangered fin whales for the next five years, which is against the advice of the IWC's own scientific committee.
"There's no doubt fin whales have a long way to go in their recovery as do all virtually, if the whale's in the Southern Ocean," Australian Antarctic Division's spokesman Nick Gales said.
Environment Protection Minister Peter Garrett says the Australian Government cannot accept the compromise.

"Australia must be successful in opposing this shabby deal," he said.

"If such a deal were to go through, Australians would need to resign themselves to watching the slaughter of whales in the Southern Ocean year after year over the next decade."
This meeting is the most controversial in years.

As well as trying to negotiate a way forward for this deadlocked organisation, the IWC is also under pressure to investigate allegations its deputy chair had his hotel bill paid for by Japan and delegates are being offered prostitutes in return for their vote
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 933102.htm
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Postby PeterB » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:02 pm

I think that the role of the Dalai Lama and the perception of his status within the Vajrayana is symptomatic of a considerable barrier to any likelihood of establishing a commonality between the Theravada and The Vajrayana Anna.
He encapsulates the whole unacceptable pantheon of Tulkus, Dieties, and other accretions that obscure the face of the Vajrayana....and that are in fact reversions to an atavistic pre-Buddhist Vedic Religion of the kind that the Buddhas teaching was meant to undermine.
As to your second point..I have no idea why he pops up on these pages so frequently.
I could form a theory around the fact that the Theravada has no celebrity to be its face...a good thing btw..but it would just be a sketchy theory.

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Postby bodom » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:12 pm

I have not read through all the post's but in my opinion FWIW it is unfortunate but the Dalai Lama has become the face and representative of all the schools and traditions of Buddhism in the world today. He is the "Pope" of Buddhism whether we like it or not. You cannot pick up a book in a bookstore without his name on the cover. Not even the Theravadin section is exempt. Heck he even wrote the forward in my copy of the Visuddhimagga. His views are excepted by the world to be the "Buddhist" view of things.

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Postby cooran » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:18 pm

Hello all,

This is a great article with pictures. You can click on a particular whale in a side menu and it shows the Conservation Status and measurements on the other side menu.
Brings up pictures of each type of whale and history.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_ ... 340277.stm

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'Mr Whale' alleges widespread criminality among former colleagues on mother ship of Japanese whaling fleet
http://americanbuddhist.net/whistleblow ... se-whaling
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Postby PeterB » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:03 pm

Sorry Anna but we will have to agree to disagree.
I think the fact that Theravadin Buddhadhamma is associated with The Dalai Lama in the eyes of the public is doubly unfortunate.
Firstly because it does not represent an honest view of things as they are . It would be like claiming that the Pope is the authentic face of the Lutheran church.
Secondly because he actually represents a form of Buddhism which is a hotbed of superstition and medieval archaisms .

Tenzing Gyatso in short does not speak in my name.
Now if he is someone that you personally find inspiring that is up to you.
But he holds a number of views which are directly incompatible with the Theravada .

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By North Asia correspondent Mark Willacy

South Korean police have charged a Seoul restaurant owner with selling whale meat believed to have come from Japan's so-called scientific whaling program.

The meat was served to customers as traditional Japanese cuisine.

South Korean investigators say 30 kilograms of whale meat was purchased in southern Japan and smuggled to Seoul.

Earlier this month the ABC interviewed two former whaling fleet crewmen who alleged their shipmates sold whale meat for profit.

It was alleged that hundreds of kilograms of the meat was taken from scientific research ships over many years by crew.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... ion=justin
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