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the great vegetarian debate

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

Postby PeterB » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:07 am

Well at the risk of sounding all zenny , when I saw a rabbit on my front lawn..I just saw a rabbit on my front lawn.. :smile:

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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

Postby EricJ » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:48 pm

I do not want my house to be walled in on sides and my windows to be stuffed. I want the cultures of all the lands to be blown about my house as freely as possible. But I refuse to be blown off my feet by any.- Gandhi

With persistence aroused for the highest goal's attainment, with mind unsmeared, not lazy in action, firm in effort, with steadfastness & strength arisen, wander alone like a rhinoceros.

Not neglecting seclusion, absorption, constantly living the Dhamma in line with the Dhamma, comprehending the danger in states of becoming, wander alone like a rhinoceros.
- Snp. 1.3

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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:11 pm

The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

Bhikku Bodhi.

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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:30 pm

- Peter


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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:37 pm

Quite so. I was of course making a point rather than being literal about Vegetarianism and Buddhism not being compatible.. :smile:

metta, Valerie
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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:24 pm

Yes , you seem really amused.
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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:18 pm

- Peter


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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

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Re: Buddhism and Vegetarianism.

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:18 pm

- Peter


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Re: Standard American Diet (S.A.D.)

Postby Goedert » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:01 pm

They say it because theyre not famine, they say it because of cling to health and beauty.

A free MC donalds wold be great in some parts of Africa. Because it is better for the little kids of africa get some food rather than eat earth with water to have something in the stomach.

Oh dana, where are you, Oh dana, some still need you!

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Re: So I gave vegetarianism a try and..

Postby Goedert » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:38 pm


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Re: So I gave vegetarianism a try and..

Postby phil » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:00 am

Hi Wind

I think it takes a few tries for it to really take root, so don't feel discouraged. Maybe you can start by giving up your favourite kind of meat for awhile and going with something that is less satisfying carnally(!) but still provides the nutrition you feel you are lacking...

I guess as Buddhists, the really important thing is the mind state that accompanies the eating, so maybe if we start getting aware of the kind of greedy, ravenous mindstate that sometimes is there when we devour our favourite burger, etc, that can be a kind of awakening to wanting to moving away from living-to-eat towards eating-to-live! I remember a photo my wife snapped of me when I was biting into something yummy and it was pretty monstrous the way my eyes were!

Someone has already probably mentionned this, but if you use the heavy kind of tofu that is readily available in the West (ironically, not here in Japan) and use spices skillfully when frying it, you can get something that has the texture of meat, or close, and just as much protein (or enough protein.) Anyone who says tofu is bland doesn't know how to cook it skillfully! :tongue:
Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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Re: So I gave vegetarianism a try and..

Postby alan » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:54 am

Sorry Goedert,
I'm sure your heart is in the right place. But your understanding of nutrition is not:

A) The body does not consume sick or deficient cells as a result of eating patterns.
B) If most vitamins are lost in the digestive process, how did we survive without supplements?
C) Muscles atrophy from lack of work. This has nothing to do with diet.
Stick with what you know best, please.

A clear mind can be maintained whether eating tofu or chicken. I have found no reason to believe vegetarianism is in any way inherently better at creating, maintaining, or purposefully living a Dhammic life. But I have found many examples of Vegetarians willingly overlooking facts to make themselves feel better.

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Re: So I gave vegetarianism a try and..

Postby PeterB » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:39 am

Too right.. :goodpost:

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Re: So I gave vegetarianism a try and..

Postby Annapurna » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:34 am

Muscles will atrophy from a lack of work and due to hunger, for instance during a famine, so both is true.

Vitamins are not lost in the digestive process, -unless a person suffers from malabsorption.

Some vitamins can get lost during storage and during the cooking process, especially if the water veggies got cooked in, is thrown away, or if the cooking process is too long, or if food gets warmed up again.


Newest studies, according to TV, have shown that vitamin supplements can increase the danger of getting cancer.

The best source for vitamins is and stays fresh food, such as fruit and veggies, preferrably organic, but also meat and eggs have, of course, considerable amounts of some vitamins.
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Is Your Seafood Safe Kevin?

Postby Virgo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:38 am

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Re: Is Your Seafood Safe Kevin?

Postby Virgo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:42 am

I want to know if my seafish is safe.

Kevin


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Re: Is Your Seafood Safe Kevin?

Postby Ben » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:46 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Is Your Seafood Safe Kevin?

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