A melodious piece from the masters of drill hammer music Einsturzende Neubaten http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUHCl4TUdTA when I saw them live they were using old oil drums, angle grinders, jack hammers, pieces of steel, etc...Aemilius wrote:That is a start. But then in the next instance of consciousness the sound can be interpreted as music, by the seventh consciousness, so that it is not interpreted as a sound of a drill hammer for example.
Not if you are into Industrial music, in which case noise is music.It does happen that you hear an indistinct sound, your mind thinks "music!" and experiences it accordingly. After a while you realize that in fact it is the neighbour's machine tool, your mind thinks "noise!", and your experience of music vanishes in a fraction of a second.
I never said anything to the contrary.Aemilius wrote:The main point is that music is a very subjective thing. Whether something is liked and valued and described as music depends very much on the person who listens to it.
Did I say anywhere that I disagree?We could say that music is a product of one's own consciousness. One's own subtle consciousness projects music on a sign, this sign triggers the experience of a particular set of sounds as music. The "sign" includes various social and cultural factors that are necessary components in the situation for the arising of music.
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