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What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"? - Dhamma Wheel

What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

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What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby smokey » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:38 am

"Through the round of many births I roamed without reward, without rest, seeking the house-builder. Painful is birth again & again. House-builder, you're seen! You will not build a house again. All your rafters broken, the ridge pole destroyed, gone to the Unformed, the mind has come to the end of craving." — Dhp 153-4

Was he reffering to the craving or mental fermentations?

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby smokey » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:47 am

Or perhaps to Mara as metaphor for the entirety of conditioned existence?
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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:49 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby smokey » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:52 am

Thanks Retro.

Metta -smokey

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby Chloe9 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:09 am

“Do not believe in anything because you have heard it. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. But after observing and analysis, when you find anything that agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all then accept it and live up to it.” – Buddha (Anguttara Nikaya, Vol1, 188-193)

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:55 am

The " house builder " is the action of identifying anything as ourselves and as having permanent existence.
The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

Bhikku Bodhi.

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby cooran » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:02 am

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby smokey » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:54 am

Thanks guys. :anjali:

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby Agent » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:04 pm

Great post, Chloe. That was very interesting. It's unfortunate so much is lost in translation.
Vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā.

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby Unexist » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:50 pm

Buddha was referring here to Advaita Vedanta's, Upanishad's so called eternal principle" Brahman".
After purity there arises knowledge, wisdom or ultimate path of knowledge and the house builder home is on fire with lightening of wisdom.

This house builder then broke apart with it's parts fallen clearly visible only to the eye of wisdom. Then in that burnt ashesh, there lies a principle which is like head taken out from body fallen apart. But delusionly Vedanta, Veda and Upanishad called it eternal as it is the last part of knowledge and whatever is last is they call it real.

Buddha said what is Burt by fire only there remain ash and we can't call the ashesh eternal. The effect they see is delusionly thinking as ultimate cause. Hence Buddha said anatta, anitya (not eternal self, imparmanent).
This is the only difference the Buddha brought out the revolution. And his only goal is to how to burn that principle which lies in myriads of birth and death. He conclude the fire which burnt is the path or the water who quenched the thirst for Nirvana is the path. He named it as truth, the path of purity and conduct.

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby Bundokji » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:44 pm

"On the highest throne in the world, we are seated, still, upon our arses"
Michel de Montaigne

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:22 pm

Greetings Bundokji,

That request may need a PM (with email notification) to get through to the recipient, because the post you're referring to is over seven years old...

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby Unexist » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:23 pm

Time is illusion in world of truth. The words of truth are not mean for any person in perticular but uniform humanity to shake off their delusion.

Might be helpful to those who is reading now!

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby ryanM » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:35 pm

sabbe dhammā nālaṃ abhinivesāya

"nothing whatsoever should be clung to"

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Re: What was the Buddha reffering to as "house-builder"?

Postby Bundokji » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:57 am

"On the highest throne in the world, we are seated, still, upon our arses"
Michel de Montaigne


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