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Pesticides used in organic farming?

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Re: Pesticides used in organic farming?

Postby effort » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:20 am

i enjoyed your post anna, thanks, but in commecial level using pesticide is non avoidable, organic farming and plant health improvemnt method helps lot but in some point farmer needs to rescue his/her harvest, i think.

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Re: Pesticides used in organic farming?

Postby PeterB » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:48 am

Slugs and snails are notoriously difficult Anna..wood ashes scattered between the lines of plants deters them without killing them. Sharp Builders Sand will deter snails but not the little grey slugs that live under the soil surface. I have not tried it yet but it is possible to buy copper wire which deters the slugs and snails by giving them a tiny galvanic shock which does not harm them but they will not cross it..apparantly..
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Re: Pesticides used in organic farming?

Postby Annapurna » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:40 am

Hi, effort,

but organic agriculture already is on a commercial level [here], -it is a huge branch, actually, with more demand than supply, so we need to import from the rest of the World.

Conventional farming or agriculture is a sad field, needing to resort to clubs, when smaller tools would work better, at least in the preventive field.

Anybody can open an can of poison and kill, but it takes intelligence to wonder about WHY something got out of balance, and how to counter it wisely.

Of course I live in a region where grass hopper invasions that ruin everything are unknown...

We do get a poisonous caterpillar though....through global warming, they say, and they come in via the Alps from Italy.

They get sprayed.

I think there is no natural antagonist, -I will have to google that.

There is of course a difference between organic and Buddhist agriculture.

Organic farmers will defend crops and kill insects, if necessary, but with different substances and with 'beings'.
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Re: Pesticides used in organic farming?

Postby PeterB » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:57 pm

Its one of the main differences between Buddhadhamma and Jainadharma as I am sure you know Rui Sousa..the Jains teach that all action results in vipaka. Buddhadhamma that only intentional action does.

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Re: Pesticides used in organic farming?

Postby chownah » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:30 pm

Probably the cheapest way to buy a large quantity of copper wire is to buy standard house wiring cable which is used pretty much everywhere in the world.....it consists of two copper wires each with their own plastic insulating layer (usually one is white and one is black) and sometimes a third copper wire with no insulation of its own and both (or all three) of them are contained in a single plastic sheath of usually white plastic insulation. Buying wire this way and then stripping off the insulation is almost guaranteed to be the cheapest way to get bare copper wire....the reason being that this stuff is made in such huge quantitites that it turns out to be cheaper.....of course it is best to do a cost comparison of whatever sources you might use. In the US this stuff is often called "twelve two with ground" or "romex".
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To collect the slugs you pick them up with chopsticks....you don't need to touch them at all....if you can't use chopsticks then stick with it and I'm sure you'll get it.....eventually.....hopefully.....you could use kitchen grabbers like the ones used to pick up hot corn on the cob....or muffins....
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Re: Pesticides used in organic farming?

Postby PeterB » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:44 pm

I am not sure Chownah if the copper wire used is the ordinary one. I have seen the slug deterent wire advertised in gardening mags, I think it may be processed in some way to make it weather proof.

I wont be using it myself. Part of anicca for me is not having a garden at the moment. We lived in rural part of Devon in the west of England for many years, with a large garden, including fruit trees and so on. For work reasons we are now living in a beautiful apartment with views of the River Thames near London. We commuted between the two properties for a while but that wasnt a realistic option in the long term, so I have had to say goodbye to the garden sob sob...we now just have a balcony with pots and planters. :weep:

On the other hand we are close to the largest Theravada centre in the UK.. :D

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Re: Pesticides used in organic farming?

Postby chownah » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:07 pm

To test regular electric copper wire to see if deters slugs one could build a small enclosure maybe a square enclosure two feet on a side (60 cm on a side) using some electric copper wire and then place some slugs on the inside....see if they escape.
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Re: Pesticides used in organic farming?

Postby Nibbida » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:31 pm

As an aside to this interesting discussion, a friend of mine told me of a natural remedy for mosquitoes. They apparently don't like wind that much since it's lots of work for them to fly through. So my friend had an outside gathering and put some fans around. It was a bit breezy, but no mosquitoes, no pesticides, no stinky repellent.


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