Food_Eatah wrote:wisdom wrote:This is as true of a one night stand as it is for a long term relationship.
On shaky ground here. Is Dharma Ending Age really the sort of time to give more consent for 5 preceptees to excuse to break them?
Some of those pick up artist and open marriage proposers are already using similar arguments.
I'm sure they are, and they are encouraging the culture of lust with their overall approach to sexuality. They are encouraging men to see women as nothing more than an animal to be hunted, a possessor of something to be obtained regardless of the flowery language they use to disguise it. Its all about manipulation and using someone. My point is that even if you decide to have a one night stand, which is completely different from being a pick up artist and something many people will do in their life, you should do it with those intentions of being selfless in order to avoid the suffering that inevitably arises in the pursuit of seeking sexual pleasure for its own sake and as an end in itself.
In terms of the 5 precepts they don't apply to lay Buddhists. Basically the precepts just say don't have sex with your siblings, immediate family, women who are married or engaged or otherwise taken, or women who are protected by their families or by law (such as underage girls). I add to this that any sexual conduct that strengthens lust or harms another, or even conduct that leads to the suffering of another later such as in the case of someone you manipulate into sleeping with you only to never call them and therefore cause them sorrow, is misconduct.