conebeckham wrote:RichardLinde is attempting to argue that Buddhas have concepts
"Concepts" are whatever appear to be concepts. If things appear to be concepts then we call them "concepts". That's how it works.
Since the Buddha talks about what he thinks will happen in the future (see my previous reference) then he appears to be having concepts, since the future hasn't happened yet. And because he appears to be having concepts then we say he is having concepts. It's that simple.
So I'm not "attempting to argue that Buddhas have concepts", because, following this reasoning, the Buddha is definitely having concepts, by definition.
. . . and that they don't have omniscience as most of us understand that word. He hasn't cited any sources
That is totally untrue. See my previous reference to where the Buddha says that he is unsure about what will happen after the Dharma is extinguished.
, relying on either a)his experience or b)Western Academic Linguistic approach.
That is also untrue. It can easily be prove with reason that it is impossible to know the details of future events with certainty, but I don't believe that you are interested in these reasons.
See my quote from Nagarjuna, a while back
The Sage has declared that earth, water, fire, and wind, long, short, fine and coarse, good, and so on are extinguished in consciousness ... Here long and short, fine and coarse, good and bad, here name and form all stop. -Nagarjuna
Your quote is irrelevant because Nagarjuna is speaking about something entirely different to what we are talking about.
When Nagarjuna says that "name and form all stop" he is talking about deluded
name and form. That is, he is talking about fantasies.
The reason that Buddhas use names and speak of forms is that names and forms do not stop for them. The difference is that their names and forms are not deluded.
he hasn't responded to that
I have responded to that very same fallacious argument several times already.
I can't find any quotes from Namdrol that are relevant to this discussion. If there's anything you would like me to respond to that isn't covered by the above, then I am more than happy to do so. Just let me know what, in particular, you want me to respond to.
That fact that you like Dzokchen, (and/or I like Sahaja Mahamudra, or HYT Completion Stage practice, or whatnot), is off-topic.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I haven't said anything about any of those subjects.