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Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

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Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby Sheranne » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:06 am

Hello- could someone please explain the difference between these names--Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu. Most specifically why is one called Venerable Bhante so and so instead of Bhikkhu ____? Do the names connote higher authority, or do they have to do with where the monk trained?

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby cooran » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:32 am

Hello all,

Ajahn is often used for Lay or Monastic teachers ~ male or female. For example, this flyer prepared by The World Fellowship of Buddhists about the female Thai Abhidhamma teacher:


http://www.wfb-hq.org/Aj_%20Sujin%202010April.html

Retro, the abbot of Dhammagiri is referred to as Ven. Dhammasiha or Bhante Dhammasiha. When people are referring to him in his presence, the term Bhante is used. When he is absent, the same term is used.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:46 am



Bhadanta (Bhaddanta) [a secondary adj. formation from address bhaddaŋ (=bhadraŋ) te "hail to thee," cp. "bhaddaŋ vo" under bhadda 1] venerable, reverend, mostly in voc. as address "Sir, holy father" etc., to men of the Order. voc. sg. bhadante S i.216 (v. l. bhaddante); voc. pl. bhadantā DhA iii.414. -- A contracted form of bhadante is bhante (q. v.). Note. In case of bhadanta being the corresp. of Sk. *bhavanta (for bhavān) we would suppose the change v>d and account for dd on grounds of pop. analogy after bhadda. See bhante. The pl. nom. from bhadantā is formed after bhadante, which was felt as a voc. of an a -- stem with -- e for -- a as in Prk. Māgadhī.

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Postby Kare » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:51 am

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:14 am

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby Paññāsikhara » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:31 am

Along with Kare, I am reminded of the story where the Buddha sneezes, and the bhikkuni Mahapajapati says something to the effect of "may you live long!", kind of equivalent of "bless you!" in modern English. The Buddha responds by asking whether or not, by merely so wishing, will one live long? Of course not, she replies, and the Buddha agrees.

It seems to me that the term "avuso" / "ayusman", is thus, in a similar manner, perhaps actually a kind of blessing if you will. And perhaps this was the reason why the Buddha was not so keen on it. In a similar way the post-sneeze blessing from the Venerable Mahapajapati.

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:14 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby Paññāsikhara » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:04 am

Thanks Cooran. Thanks for citing that and making the distinction clear. So much for my musings!! :tongue:
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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby Kare » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:10 pm

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

Postby hummingbird » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:51 am

I am wondering if it would be correct to address a monk as Bhikkhu, or is Bhante preferred. Thank you

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Re: Definition Ajahn, Bhante, and Bhikkhu

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