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the matrix edited for buddhism, just for fun

Postby dhammastudier » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:28 pm

Neo
Unfortunately, no one can be told what nirvana is. You have to see it for yourself.
Do not try to destroy the self — that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth: there is no self.

Morpheus

You take the wrong path, the story ends, you wake up in samsara and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the eight fold path, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

What is real? How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can hear, what you can smell, taste and feel, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

samsara is an illusion, Neo. That illusion is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that illusion, and that makes them our goal. You have to understand, most of these people do not want to learn the truth. And many of them are so injured, so hopelessly dependent on mara, that they will fight to protect it.

Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.

Welcome to the desert... of the real.

What if when you woke up, you didn't know the difference between the dream world, and the real world?


Dialogue

Trinity: I know why you're here, Neo. I know what you've been doing … why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit in front of your tv. You're looking for something real. I know because I was once looking for the same thing. And when it found me, i realized I wasn't really looking for it. I was looking for an answer. It's the question that drives us, Neo. It's the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did.
Neo: What is samsara?
Trinity: The answer is out there, Neo, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.

Morpheus: I imagine that right now, you're feeling a bit like Alice. Hm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole?
Neo: You could say that.
Morpheus: I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that's not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate, Neo?
Neo: No.
Morpheus: Why not?
Neo: Because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life.
Morpheus: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Neo: samsara.
Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?
Neo: Yes.
Morpheus: the illusion of mara is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind. Unfortunately, no one can be told what nirvana is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the wrong path, the story ends, you wake up in samsara and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the eightfold path, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

Taglines

Be Afraid Of mara

Free your mind.

The Fight for the end of suffering begins.

Believe the unbelievable.

Reality is a thing of the past.

What is samsara?

Unfortunately, no one can be told what nirvana is. You have to see it for yourself.

Welcome to the Real World.

There is no self.

I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it.

Follow the monk.



Neo
Unfortunately, no one can be told what The Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.
Do not try to bend the spoon — that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth: there is no spoon.

Whoa …

I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world … without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries; a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

I know Kung Fu.

Yeah. Well, that sounds like a pretty good deal. But I think I may have a better one. How about, I give you the finger [He does] and you give me my phone call.

Morpheus

You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

What is real? How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can hear, what you can smell, taste and feel, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.

Welcome to the desert... of the real.

What if when you woke up, you didn't know the difference between the dream world, and the real world?

Agent Smith



As you can see, we've had our eye on you for some time now, Mr. Anderson. It seems that you've been living two lives. In one life, you're Thomas A. Anderson, program writer for a respectable software company. You have a social security number, you pay your taxes, and you … help your landlady carry out her garbage. The other life is lived in computers, where you go by the hacker alias "Neo" and are guilty of virtually every computer crime we have a law for. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not.

I'm going to be as forthcoming as I can be, Mr. Anderson. You're here because we need your help. We know that you've been contacted by a certain individual, a man who calls himself Morpheus. Now, whatever you think you know about this man is irrelevant. He is considered by many authorities to be the most dangerous man alive. My colleagues believe that I'm wasting my time with you, but I believe you wish to do the right thing. We're willing to wipe the slate clean, give you a fresh start. And all that we're asking for in return is your cooperation in bringing a known terrorist to justice.

I'd like to share a revelation I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we … are the cure.

Have you ever stood and stared at it, marveled at its beauty, its genius? Billions of people just living out their lives, oblivious. Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world, where none suffered, where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program, entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world, but I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this, the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization, because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization, which is of course what this is all about. Evolution, Morpheus, evolution. Like the dinosaur. Look out that window. You had your time. The future is our world, Morpheus. The future is our time.

Can you hear me, Morpheus? I am going to be honest with you. (with loathing in his voice) I, Hate this place, this zoo, this prison, this reality what ever you want to call it. I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink! And every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it. It's repulsive. Isn't it? I must get out of here! I must get free! And in this mind is the key. Once Zion is destroyed there is no reason for me to be here, don't you understand? I need the codes, I have to get inside Zion and you have to tell me how. You are going to tell me or you are going to die!

Dialogue

Trinity: I know why you're here, Neo. I know what you've been doing … why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer. You're looking for him. I know because I was once looking for the same thing. And when he found me, he told me I wasn't really looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It's the question that drives us, Neo. It's the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did.
Neo: What is the Matrix?
Trinity: The answer is out there, Neo, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.

Morpheus: I imagine that right now, you're feeling a bit like Alice. Hm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole?
Neo: You could say that.
Morpheus: I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that's not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate, Neo?
Neo: No.
Morpheus: Why not?
Neo: Because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life (period).
Morpheus: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Neo: The Matrix.
Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?
Neo: Yes.
Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind. Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

Neo: Why do my eyes hurt?
Morpheus: You've never used them before.

Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Business men, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. Were you listening to me, Neo, or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?
Neo: I was …
Morpheus: Look again. [an agent appears] Freeze it.
Neo: This … this isn't the Matrix?
Morpheus: No. It's another training program designed to teach you one thing: if you are not one of us, you are one of them.
Neo: What are they?
Morpheus: Sentient programs. They can move in and out of any software still hard-wired to their system. That means that anyone we haven't unplugged is potentially an agent. Inside the Matrix, they are everyone and they are no one. We have survived by hiding from them, by running from them, but they are the gatekeepers. They are guarding all the doors, they are holding all the keys, which means that sooner or later, someone is going to have to fight them.
Neo: Someone?
Morpheus: I won't lie to you, Neo. Every single man or woman who has stood their ground, everyone who has fought an agent has died. But where they have failed, you will succeed.
Neo: Why?
Morpheus: I've seen an agent punch through a concrete wall. Men have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air. Yet their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong or as fast as you can be.
Neo: What are you trying to tell me, that I can dodge bullets?
Morpheus: No, Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.

Cypher: I don't wanna remember nothing. Nothing, you understand? And I wanna be rich. You know, someone important … like an actor.
Agent Smith: Whatever you want, Mr. Reagan.

Taglines

Be Afraid Of The Future.

Free your mind.

The Fight for the Future Begins.

Believe the unbelievable.

Reality is a thing of the past.

What is The Matrix?

Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

Welcome to the Real World.

There is no spoon.

I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it.

Follow the white rabbit.

In a world of 1s and 0s... are you a zero, or The One?

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Postby Mawkish1983 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:56 pm

You know, the Matrix is a specialist subject of mine...

... ask me about it sometime. Right now, I have to sleep :)

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Postby Kim OHara » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:56 pm

Well done, Zac
:toast:
...and I do hope both of you know Samuel Delaney's 'Towers of Toron' SF trilogy (books), which is far earlier than 'The Matrix'?
There's a similar plugged-in pseudo-real world in it, and lots more good stuff too.

Kim

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Postby smokey » Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:41 am

Has anyone seen movie "Little Buddha"? It features Keanu Reeves as the Buddha.

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Postby bodom » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:25 am

Very cool Zac. It has been a long time since I seen this movie. Ill definitely have to watch it again soon.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Postby alan » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:13 am

The legendary Vittorio Storaro's photography is the only thing good about "little Buddha".
Besides that, it is a waste of time.

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Yea, I have always felt the Matrix had a lot in common with Buddhist concepts, something I realize much later since I wasn't a Buddhist when Matrix came out. haha Great film.

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