The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

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Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Postby alan » Sat May 29, 2010 3:33 am

It's hard to come up with a reply that is polite and you will understand, Dex, when you keep slipping all over the place. That bit about illusory flowers caused by fatigue, for example, can't be used to prove anything. They have a cause--fatigue, and if you perceive them then they can't be all that unreal. You're taking leaps and bounds in your arguments.
So I'd say that it is time for you to play the answer me this game. It's not a game, actually. I'd say it is an accepted basic rule in any discussion.
Come here with guns blazing and make provocative assertions if you like--but it's odd for you to assume you will not be questioned about them.

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Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Postby Ben » Sat May 29, 2010 4:13 am

Well said, Mike.
In fact, in all my time here on Dhamma Wheel and e-sangha, my observation has been that Venerable Huifeng has done nothing but provide thought provoking, insightful and scholarly contributions to discussions. And I am sure for many of our Theravadin members, Bhante's words have proved insightful for their own understanding and practice. Regardless of tradition, Shi Huifeng is an asset to all of us.
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Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Postby beeblebrox » Sun May 30, 2010 11:46 am

Dexing, you keep on saying a lot of things about illusions...

Let's say that there was a magic show. After it was over, a bunch of friends got together and then discussed about what they saw:

:geek: Friend #1, "There was no way that rabbit came out of the empty hat! It was an illusion."
:ugeek: Friend #2, "No, no, that was real. He had the rabbit in his sleeve all along."

Now... which one of them is more correct? :P If you think that this was a nonsense question, then you would be right. You're actually trying to frame the discussion in this way. This also explains some of the posts on here, if you didn't get their significance the first time around.

This reminds me of a koan (I gotta paraphrase this, hope you don't mind):

The emperor asked the old monk seated before him to explain. The old monk rose and then walked over to the table. He banged it on the floor several times, and then left.

The emperor was astonished. He stroked his own impeccable, nicely-groomed beard. The spiritual advisor then whispered to him, "Wow, that monk really knows his stuff... he expounded the Dhamma fully!"

Now... why did the monk do that? :? Did someone talk about the emptiness and the hallucinatory flowers in front of the emperor again? Image

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