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Two types of jhana - Dhamma Wheel

Two types of jhana

The cultivation of calm or tranquility and the development of concentration
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Two types of jhana

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:39 am

This may be of interest. Have not had time to listen, so it may be very good, middling or bad:

http://www.buddhistgeeks.com/2009/03/bg ... vipassana/

http://www.richardshankman.org/

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Re: Two types of jhana

Postby Ben » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:57 am

Thanks Tilt
Downloading the podcast now.
kind regards

B
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in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Re: Two types of jhana

Postby Moggalana » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:02 am

I wanted to post that too, and ask what you think. Any thoughts yet, anyone?
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Re: Two types of jhana

Postby Kenshou » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:22 pm

I like Shankman. I've got his book as well as listened to several of his talks, and overall I tend to agree with him. Since I haven't read the entire canon I cannot know, but his analysis of jhana (and dividing it into two sorts) seems sensible, however I also like the fact that he seems to remain fairly egalitarian and doesn't condemn either.

As for that retreat, if I weren't across the country that would be something interesting. But no luck.

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Re: Two types of jhana

Postby FrankT » Sat May 22, 2010 5:59 am

The 2nd Recollection: The Dhamma is well expounded by the Blessed One, directly visible, immediate, inviting one to come and see, worthy of application, to be personally experienced by the wise. (AN 6:10; III 284-88)

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Re: Two types of jhana

Postby mikenz66 » Sat May 22, 2010 7:19 am

Hi Frank,

Can you explain where in the Visiddhimagga it is said that crushing mind with mind is presented as an instruction for attaining Jhana? All I see in Chapter IV is practical advice such going to secluded places, balancing the faculties, etc...

Mike

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Re: Two types of jhana

Postby FrankT » Sat May 22, 2010 5:48 pm

The 2nd Recollection: The Dhamma is well expounded by the Blessed One, directly visible, immediate, inviting one to come and see, worthy of application, to be personally experienced by the wise. (AN 6:10; III 284-88)

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Re: Two types of jhana

Postby nathan » Tue May 25, 2010 2:01 am

But whoever walking, standing, sitting, or lying down overcomes thought, delighting in the stilling of thought: he's capable, a monk like this, of touching superlative self-awakening. § 110. {Iti 4.11; Iti 115}


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