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Choosing a Monastery

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Fri May 21, 2010 4:33 am

What should one look for in choosing a monastery, and a preceptor?
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby Cittasanto » Fri May 21, 2010 7:46 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby BlackBird » Sat May 22, 2010 12:13 am

- A supportive, encouraging and dilligent community who have their heads screwed on properly.
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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby Cittasanto » Sat May 22, 2010 6:11 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Sat May 22, 2010 6:46 am

Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Sat May 22, 2010 5:36 pm

Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby cooran » Sat May 22, 2010 9:49 pm

Hello convivium, all,

Worldwide Monasteries of the Thai Forest Sangha
http://www.forestsangha.org/index.php?o ... 0&Itemid=9

with metta
Chris
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---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Sun May 23, 2010 12:21 am

Between Maha Nikaya and Dhammayuttika Nikaya you'd recommend the former for this reason? There's a teacher in Thailand named Ajahn Dick in the Dhammayuttika that i was pointed towards from Wat Metta. All the other students of Ajahn Mun are in Dhammayut. Ajahn Mun told Ajahn Chah not to switch lineages so all those monasteries are Maha Nikaya like most of Thailand...
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby jcsuperstar » Sun May 23, 2010 1:46 am

are you saying you want, specifically, a thai forest monastery?
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Sun May 23, 2010 2:22 am

specifically to some extent, but also open to other traditions, especially non-commentarial traditions. i really like milarepa...
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby jcsuperstar » Sun May 23, 2010 2:52 am

well milarepa was Tibetan so completely different... maybe it would help to first settle on what exactly you want to study. how long have you been seriously studying Buddhism?
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Sun May 23, 2010 3:36 am

Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Sun May 23, 2010 5:56 am

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... nance.html
it's articles like that.. thots that we must follow the eightfold path at least foundational seeing that it works, that keeps me in therevada sutta-based traditions. the possibility of encountering teachers in the internal worlds that can teach these other practices and perspectives is fine enough to not worry about it for now. that's where most teachers and all their initiations are found. if one day this is necessary or i am moved to do more then it will come. i was thinking about going to http://www.garchen.org for now the foundations of therevada are more than sufficient.
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Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Sun May 23, 2010 6:13 am

therevada is called foundational to those (vajrayana, tantrayana, bodhisattva) practices and perspectives. therevada is all we need for total parinibbana which is the only ultimate end.
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Choosing a Monastery

Postby convivium » Sun May 23, 2010 6:26 am

true. kagyu, etc is concerned with the creation of the subtle bodies, varjrasattva, etc. for the bodhisattva path. http://sacred-sex.org/buddhism/
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php


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