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klqv wrote:i'm a little lost. ge-luk says that there are external objects, despite i assume cause being conceptually constructed. how are they able to say this, because i thought the standard template was that if cause is conceptually constructed then caused things are?
so do some groups say that things are conventionally empty and conventionally real?I believe they are saying external objects are conventionally real.
i was asking how ge-luk can be realists about objects if they think they are conceptually constructed.I am not sure what you are asking
as Nāgārjuna set out to show, since the causal relation does not exist from its own side, is conceptually constructed, and therefore empty, each causally related object must be so constructed and therefore empty in the most profound sense of being conceptually constructed.
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