norman wrote:Voidness is not a quality of objectivity, phenomena being their absence of themselves phenomenally as conceptual objects. Phenomena cannot be perceived at all, they are appearances integral in their perceiving, which is why they are called "void", or "dependently originated".
"Inherent existence", "objective existence", ”own-being”, "objectivity" (”the state or quality of being objective”), is not as such, i.e., a conceptual object; it is a mental act, the act of perceiving objects at all, as subject-perceiving-object.
I disagree that phenomena cannot be perceived. They can be perceived by both enlightened and unenlightened sentient beings. But the difference is that enlightened beings don't attach to the phenomena. They see forms just as we do but realize that the forms are creations of their mind. There are nothing wrong with the forms themselves because they are just descriptions of the suchness from a certain point of view. The problem is that we think of the forms as having a permanent self, but they don't.
Prajna manifests as the emptying of phenomena, the appearance of phenomena being their absence as objectively existing. Prajna is conceptually inexistent, and so cannot be cultivated, meditated upon, or anything else, unless it is treated as an object of thought. The emptying of phenomena is the emptying of mind, which is what they are.
One can conceive of Prajna but that conception is also empty. Prajna is cultivated by freeing oneself from attachments as described in the Prajna-paramita (Wisdom Perfection) Sutras.
.....The voiding of objectivity (as what it is conceived to be) is the very manifesting of prajna, which is the inseeing of phenomena as being objectively absent, but NOT the appearance as such.
I think of phenomena as being neither there nor absent. The point is, not forming any deluded ideas of what the phenomena are. We already see the suchness; we just need to remove the deluded thoughts added by our minds. There is nothing wrong with seeing forms, in fact, it is necessary for living in the world. But we must realize that these forms are empty creations in our minds. They describe the world from a certain point of view, but have no permanent self.