Emptiness?

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Karma Dondrup Tashi
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Emptiness?

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:55 pm

It isn't a transcendental thing in the sky.

It isn't a black hole of nothingness.

It isn't an existent thing asserting itself over a nonexistent thing or a nonexistent thing asserting itself over an existent thing.

It's a perspective which sees that everything is holding hands with everything else in order to produce and maintain everything.
What I want is a view. Hannibal Lecter

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Re: Emptiness?

Postby muni » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:14 pm

Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:
It's a perspective which sees that everything is holding hands with everything else in order to produce and maintain everything.


Emptiness-Dependent Origination.

That which originates through dependence
This you maintain to be empty;
that no independent entity exists
You, the peerless (proclaimed) in a lion's roar. By Master Nagarjuna.
‘View like the sky’ means that nothing is held onto in any way whatsoever. You are not stuck anywhere at all. In other words, there is no discrimination as to what to accept and what to reject; no line is drawn separating one thing from another. ‘Conduct as fine as barley flour’ means that there is good and evil, and one needs to differentiate between the two. Give up negative deeds; practice the Dharma. In your behaviour, in your conduct, it is necessary to accept and reject.” Guru Rinpoche

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Re: Emptiness?

Postby White Lotus » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:45 pm

emptiness is the abscence rather than presence. all prescence is compounded, only abscence is non compounded. all attainments are compounded. seek abscence rather than presence and relinquishing rather than aquiring. that which is aquired is compounded, perhaps a fabrication of the mind. the mind spinning webs such as fearlessness or painlessness. these things must occur naturally and not be a fabrication.

you can taste emptiness through neti neti.... not this, not this. or no, no. or through 'beyond, beyond'.

is it love? no, no. is it peace? no no. is it etc etc etc. no no. go beyond beyond all names and all forms. then you can taste emptiness.

love white lotus. x

tasteless, formless, smellless,
it has all forms all tastes and all smells.
in any matters of importance. dont rely on me. i may not know what i am talking about. take what i say as mere speculation. i am not ordained. nor do i have a formal training. i do believe though that if i am wrong on any point. there are those on this site who i hope will quickly point out my mistakes.

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Re: Emptiness?

Postby Blue Garuda » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:24 pm

White Lotus wrote:emptiness is the abscence rather than presence.
love white lotus. x

tasteless, formless, smellless,
it has all forms all tastes and all smells.



:good:

Absence is a much more helpful word to use. :)
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Re: Emptiness?

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:15 pm

White Lotus wrote:is it love? no, no.
Why should we bother with it then?
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Re: Emptiness?

Postby White Lotus » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:57 pm

we should bother with emptiness, because it is the source of love, and to eat my words, emptiness being absent of all qualites is the embodiment of all qualites including love. But, emptiness is not love in its primal state, it is only love as an appearance.

love, White Lotus. xxx

love, what is it?
emptiness.
emptiness what is it?
love.

samatta.
in any matters of importance. dont rely on me. i may not know what i am talking about. take what i say as mere speculation. i am not ordained. nor do i have a formal training. i do believe though that if i am wrong on any point. there are those on this site who i hope will quickly point out my mistakes.

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Re: Emptiness?

Postby Prasadachitta » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:14 pm

White Lotus wrote:emptiness is the abscence rather than presence. all prescence is compounded, only abscence is non compounded. all attainments are compounded. seek abscence rather than presence and relinquishing rather than aquiring. that which is aquired is compounded, perhaps a fabrication of the mind. the mind spinning webs such as fearlessness or painlessness. these things must occur naturally and not be a fabrication.

you can taste emptiness through neti neti.... not this, not this. or no, no. or through 'beyond, beyond'.

is it love? no, no. is it peace? no no. is it etc etc etc. no no. go beyond beyond all names and all forms. then you can taste emptiness.

love white lotus. x

tasteless, formless, smellless,
it has all forms all tastes and all smells.


Without Presence there can not be absence and without absence there can be no presence.


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