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http://www.namsebangdzo.com/Dawn_of_Awa ... /16001.htm
Nangwa wrote:The Six Loka Rushen is a common Rushen. It comes from the Buddhist Dzogchen tantras. For instance, Jigme Lingpa also gives this instruction in the Yeshe Lama. The Longsal cycle contains slightly different instructions but the essence is the same.
Samael Aun Weor wrote:"When the pluralized “I” is dissolved, it leaves in the mind its seeds of perdition.
"The yogis say that one must burn the seeds, incinerate them, reduce them to cosmic dust."
"The purifications were evident, manifest, clear, and positive." - Gnostic Magic of the Runes
Pema Rigdzin wrote:Purifying the seeds of the six lokas is part of all Buddhist khorde rushen practices, not just Namkhai Norbu's Longsal. Instructions for this practice differ in minor ways in the various systems, but it's almost always basically the same thing essentially. I believe one of Norbu Rinpoche's versions of this practice, however, is unique in that it combines Vajrasattva practice with the purification of the six lokas. On the other hand, I've received pith instructions from one of my other lamas on how to combine purification of the seeds of the six lokas with various Yidams in a very similar way.
Lhug-Pa wrote:Samael Aun Weor's ...
Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:Lhug-Pa wrote:Samael Aun Weor's ...
Oh deary me. Been there done that my friend. Decided to wise up and find a real teacher. Western occultism just leads to all this intellectual index-card-ism that you're doing. If you stop trying to stuff all that cr*p into your head and drop it all then you see where it's really at, no offense.
GnosticTeachings.org wrote:"Let us remember Tsong Khapa who reincarnated in Tibet; he was the Buddha Gautama previously." - Samael Aun Weor, Mental Representations. [Although some Buddhist students may dispute this statement, it was echoed some years earlier in Tibet by Je Phabongkhapa, in Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand, who said that Padmasambhava (the founder of the Nyingma school), Je Tsongkhapa, Atisha, and Buddha Gautama Shakyamuni were all one holy being, not four separate mental continuums.
Tsong Khapa reportedly said, "A female companion is the basis of accomplishment of liberation."
Lhug-Pa wrote:Also, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche wrote that we don't have to change our Religion to practice Dzogchen; because like Gnosis, Mahasandhi is beyond strict traditionalist-identity (of course Atiyoga is based on Direct Transmission, but that's not what I'm talking about here).
Lhug-Pa wrote:Anyhow, these correspondences are rather uncanny I'd say.
Lhug-Pa wrote:Samael Aun Weor ...
mañjughoṣamaṇi wrote:They are similar because most of these modern mystical and pagan practices are just warmed over nicked versions of Buddhist and Hindu tantric practices.
Namdrol wrote:The context of Dzogchen is %100 Buddhist. If you are a Dzogchen practitioner, there is no point in practicing anything else.
Samael Aun Weor wrote:"Remember, Gnostic brethren, that the practical synthesis of all the yogas, lodges, orders, religions, schools, systems, etc., is in the Gnosis of the Cosmic Christ. Our great Master, Jesus the Christ, deeply studied Yoga in its entirety and the whole of the ancient wisdom. Then after, he delivered all of this, already digested and perfectly simplified in an absolutely practical way in his Gnosticism.
"There is Gnosis in the Buddhist doctrine, in the Tantric Buddhism from Tibet, in the Zen Buddhism from Japan, in the Chan Buddhism of China, in Sufism, in the Whirling Dervishes, in the Egyptian, Persian, Chaldean, Pythagorean, Greek, Aztec, Mayan, Inca, etc., wisdom. If we carefully study the Christian Gospels, we will find in them Pythagorean mathematics, the Chaldean and Babylonian parable, and the formidable Buddhist moral.
"The system of teaching which was adopted by Jesus was the system of the Essenes. Certainly, the Essenes were one hundred percent Gnostics. Therefore, the Four Gospels are Gnostic Gospels and they cannot be understood without the Maithuna (Sexual Magic).
"It becomes absurd to adulterate Gnosis with different teachings, because the Christian Gospel prohibits adultery. It is absurd to conceive of Gnosis without the Maithuna. We can drink the wine of Gnosis (Divine Wisdom) within a Greek, Buddhist, Sufi, Aztec, Egyptian, etc. cup, yet we must not adulterate this delicious wine with strange doctrines. The practical synthesis of Gnosticism in its absolutely revolutionary way is taught within the Gnostic Institutions. The Gnostic Lumisials from the Gnostic Institutions are esoteric academies and temples of solar liturgy."
Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:Look back in the day when I liked the occult I was into him. I just grew out of him. I think he rants a lot and his writing is kind of bad. But look if you're getting something out of it more power to ya. Who am I to judge I don't have any realization.
Dechen Norbu wrote:Samael Aun Weor and his gnosis are really a poor choice for someone into western's occult scene. His work is shoddy, most is plagiarized,
Dechen Norbu wrote:his prophecies don't confirm (what a surprise!),
Dechen Norbu wrote:his arguments are beyond speculative, his message is incoherent,
Dechen Norbu wrote:there are lot of mistakes when he drinks from other traditions (like Buddhism)
Dechen Norbu wrote:his disciples were/ are at each others throats in shameful ways... even considering Western occult landscape one can say that it is bad, really bad. So bad it isn't even wrong.
Dechen Norbu wrote:I ran across a group affiliated with this fellow when I was a teen. Didn't last long there. What a sad joke that was. It's really shoddy. If I were you Lhug-Pa, I'd stay clear of such sects. They have all the bearings of an unhealthy cult. Just my opinion. At least you can't say you weren't warned.
Samael Aun Weor wrote:"Disgracefully, the younger Gnostic brethren have not studied; they have not lived my doctrine which I have delivered throughout so many years in order for them to attain the psychological liberation. Thus, they themselves have wanted to sabotage the Great Work of the White Brotherhood..." - Revolution of the Dialectic
Samael Aun Weor wrote:"An infamous harvest of Hanasmussen is going to appear, mainly in the South American territories of Venezuela and Colombia. This is simply because all of those little brethren have not dedicated themselves to the disintegration of their ego; they are very lazy—meaning, they are lazy in that sense, because they only want initiations, degrees, powers, etc., and they do not worry about the disintegration of their ego. Therefore, the future that awaits those two countries is, indeed, an infamous harvest of Hanasmussen with double centers of gravity. This is what will occur, unless all of them dedicate themselves in a massive manner to the disintegration of their ego..." - Profound Meditation
Samael Aun Weor wrote:"Great schools of regeneration have existed through the course of history (it is enough for us to remember the Rosicrucian Alchemical school that became secret in the year 1620). Likewise, it comes into our memory the schools of Aryavarta Ashrama of Tibet, as well as the sect of the Manicheans of Persian origin, and the famous Sufis with their sacred dances, the Templars, etc. All of these were schools of regeneration; the “coitus reservatus” is practiced in all of them. The schools of regeneration constitute the Golden Chain of the White Lodge." - Alchemy and Kabbalah
Samael Aun Weor wrote:"This is the Religion of Wisdom of the ancient Sacerdotal Colleges, of the Gymnosophists or solitary JINNS from Central Asia, of the Iohanes, Samoans, Egyptian Ascetics, ancient Pythagoreans, medieval Rosicrucians, Templars, primeval Masons and other more or less known esoteric Brotherhoods, whose list would occupy a dozen of pages." - Gnostic Magic of the Runes
Almustafa wrote:If you study our resources as we have indicated (mainly through our lectures on Gnostic Radio or those that have been transcribed on the Gnostic Teachings page), you will see that the mystery tradition of Freemasonry is studied and explained in depth within the Gnostic knowledge.
Different groups have said different things: I know and have heard of some Masons who have been pleased by The Perfect Matrimony (which goes into detail about the Kabbalistic symbolism contained within the rites of the Masons, which otherwise would have remained cryptic given the limitations of some of their resources). Others have rejected the writings of Samael Aun Weor completely, mostly due to the tone of his works, and not their content.
There are many who do not like Samael Aun Weor because of his writing style, since he composed through a Martian influence and idiosyncrasy (relating with the Seven Spiritual Rays described in esotericism). However, what he explains does not contradict what any of the other Initiates or esoteric authors (like Albert Pike, Manly P. Hall, etc.) have said about these subjects.
Also, because he was so open with this knowledge, he has been condemned by many spiritual groups, Rosicrucian, Mason or otherwise, who have 1) either been possessive for ownership of this wisdom or 2) are openly contradicted by what Samael Aun Weor wrote, since what some really practice is a disguised form of Black Magic.
It is certainly not pleasant for some to approach the sensitive subject of spiritual authenticity, but compassion (understanding) is not complacency with ignorance. The Logos Samael is described in the Book of Revelation as the White Rider, from whose mouth (Tantric knowledge of Da'ath) emerges a double-edged sword. This sword, even in Samael Aun Weor's incarnated time, has cut through many people due to its force, and is representative of the conflicts that have emerged in relation to the spreading of this knowledge (since many have remained attached to traditions but without comprehension of them; therefore, in being corrected, a lot of "spiritual" pride has been wounded).
Gnosis refers to a specific form of experiential knowledge, which is contained within the cryptic symbolism of the mystery traditions. As Son of Man pointed out to you, just because a person participates in a tradition does not mean they understand the esotericism of that tradition (indicating that they have Gnosis). Also, if one does not have Gnosis or experiential understanding of a particular tradition (grasping with internal experience from one's consciousness what it signifies), it indicates that they will not likely recognize corruptions to that tradition if there are any present.
If you want to find comments about Samael Aun Weor from Rosicrucians or Masons, you can simply use google. But we will not reiterate for this community the straw-man propoganda being proliferated against him to denigrate his writings. Samael Aun Weor was very conscious of the criticism poised against him from Rosicrucian orders like A.M.O.R.C., and wrote about it in works like The Revolution of Beelzebub and Igneous Rose. There are many who are coming to study and appreciate his writings though, and there are others who do not. While the Dharma is the Dharma, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion.
The Secret Doctrine of Anahuac by Samael Aun Weor wrote:However, the scholars cannot in any way ignore that in the Bible there is an extended narration of the journey that every great cyclic generation makes.
Humanity is completely ripe for the supreme punishment. The end of this shameful humanity is near.
The Kabbalistic analysis demonstrates that in the numbers two (2), five (5), zero (0), and zero (0), the secret of the great catastrophe is enclosed. Whosoever has understanding, let him understand for there is wisdom therein.
Unfortunately, people do not know how to comprehend the profound meaning of certain Kabbalistic numbers. Lamentably, they interpret everything literally.
We must wait in cold blood for the supreme hour of punishment for many and of martyrdom for others.
Dechen Norbu wrote:Foe anyone interested to know what we were talking about:
Master and Avatar
Throughout his books and lectures there are many instances in which Samael Aun Weor states that he is a Master and that his inner being, Samael, is the Avatar of Aquarius. For example, in The Aquarian Message, he writes, "the Maitreya Buddha Samael is the Kalki Avatar of the New Age." The Kalki avatar and Maitreya Buddha, he claimed, are the same "White Horse Rider" of the book of Revelation.Andrew Dawson New Era, New Religions, p. 56, Ashgate Publishing Ltd., 2007 ISBN 978-0754654339
He also states that he completed the Great Work of Self-Realization in the previous Manvantara and had been living on Earth for millions of years, as a bodhisattva of compassion, before becoming a fallen angel. He stated that this is why Samael is synonymous with both a demonic connotation, such as "blind God," as well as an angel,Gustave Davidson A Dictionary of Angels, p. 255, The Free Press, 1971 ISBN 0-02-907052-X and it was only in his most recent incarnation that he paid his karmic debts, and became an upstanding bodhisattva once again.
In The Revolution of Beelzebub, Samael Aun Weor relates how he came in contact with Beelzebub and convinced him to leave the rank and file of the Black Lodge, directed by Jahve the God of the Jews. In 1950, with the publication of The Revolution of Beelzebub, Samael Aun Weor would declare how all the evil in the Western world is concentrated in the Vatican.
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