klqv wrote:i'm not sure i "get it" or not... things still arise just not truly? in which case, can't we speak of the annihilation of something that exists but does not truly exist? in which case, are illusory dharmas annihilated at death?
You as a sentient being may percieve things as arising or disappearing.
That is only an illusion of your perception.
Your perception tries to classify and label them as being in one time and place. That is an illusion of your perception and it's need to seperate out these blocks of time/place/objects as seperate identitys. In fact they are not seperate blocks of time/space/ojects...they are merely illusionary fragmentary perceptions of your mind in a contiuous stream of perceptions.
But your Ego Mind...that mind that calls some things "Me" and other things as "Not Me" is profoundly unhappy with that reality.
Your Ego mind wants to control you by controlling your perceptions, and assigning some to "Me" and "Good" and others to "Not Me" and "Bad".
That's why your questions about continuity and discontinunity, arising and disapearing, are meaningless.
All such terms are only illusions created by our Ego Mind....to control us by assigning the labels of "Me". "Mine", "Good"; or "Not Me", "Not Mine", "Not Good" as the Ego Mind desires, to retain control of us by controlling our perceptions.
Rebirth...birth, death, and rebirth are also such illusionary perceptions,
Not because they don't exist...they do...but are merely because they are illusion sof seperate blocks in an actual unending flow.
These seperate blocks we percieve are merely illusions.
Once you regonise this, verify it with your own whole-body-mind experience you can truely be free of the fear of the round of birth and death (and suffering to if I may add that)...because you can then percieve them as only illusions having no hold over the essiential nature of You.
But that's another subject.
Shame on you Shakyamuni for setting the precedent of leaving home.
Did you think it was not there--
in your wife's lovely face
in your baby's laughter?
Did you think you had to go elsewhere (simply) to find it?
from - Judyth Collin
The Layman's Lament
From What Book, 1998, p. 52
Edited by Gary Gach