Pema Rigdzin wrote:
Sonam Wangchug wrote:
As far as attachment to items of a previous life. Dalai lama himself reached out for his old mala. I don't see how in a thread for the found reincarnation of Tulku urgyen rinpoche there was any need to stain it in anyway whatsoever.
Yes, it's a shame that news of the reincarnation of a humble and genuine lama, unmarred in his previous life by even a whisper of controversy, has to be sullied like this. I'm starting to wonder why I bother going to these online Buddhist forums anymore... Everyday they seem more flooded than the next with cynicism, pessimism, smug skepticism, and every other kind of downer imaginable.
On a thread about post-mortem rebirth relating to an individual case, it would be legitimate to raise the question of general evidence supporting post-mortem rebirth.
So far no debate on this has been heavily moderated, and they pop up regularly all over web forums. (For the record, in this case, I believe Buddha taught post-mortem rebirth in clear terms with which I agree.)
On a thread relating to a specific individual case of the identification of a tulku, it is legitimate to raise the question of the way in which this system is now being applied.
My comment did not deny the tulku system nor the individual in question, but I do have doubts about its general application today, and gave an example.
My apologies if anyone thought this misplaced. I intended no 'cynicism, pessimism, smug skepticism', and wonder at the use of such barely disguised ad homs, but there we go. I'll assume your intention was good.
As for being a Mod, I would be very grateful for others to volunteer to take over immediately. The site needs new Mods at the moment. Pema, you have such experience, so why not volunteer and work to raise the level of debate to meet your own standards and interpret the ToS your own way?
This was a thread about the reincarnation of a beloved, genuine teacher completely who, incidentally, was uninvolved with any pomp and circumstance in his former life, and was only dedicated to teaching the Dharma to anyone who came to him, and people were rejoicing about his return to this world. Where's the joy, the warmth? Must everything be the object of some smug line of questioning and analysis? Most of us are aware that there has been some misuse of the tulku system (as well as the fact that it was sometimes much more complex than a matter of mere greed, desire, and abject corruption) and most of us are well aware that Buddhism has not gone 2,600 yrs without some individuals associated with it doing some questionable things, right or wrong. Is it important or relevant to our daily practice to dwell on these things?
As for me and moderation, thanks but no thanks. I'd rather use my limited time for more practice and study. As it is, I already spend more time at these forums than I should.
P.S. Yeshe, for what it's worth, what you perceived as ad homs were not aimed solely at you, and they weren't intended to be disguised. As I stated, they reflect my general disappointment with the online Buddhist forum experience.