Our Inner Hitler

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

Postby Annapurna » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:10 pm

Excuse me, Tilt, but I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Are you accusing me of "trivialization" with a "silly expression"?

Please clarify.
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Re: Our Inner Hitler

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:18 pm

Greetings,

A topic on "Our Inner Hitler", a topic on "The Pali term Ariyan"... what's next, a topic on "The use of the swastika in Buddhism?"

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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With metta,
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

Postby christopher::: » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:55 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

Postby christopher::: » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:53 am

I tend to agree with you, Tilt. And yet here we are (myself included) taking positions, presenting views, discussing the limitations of Gregory's OP presentation instead of the substance he was pointing to...

Are those surface limitations really more important (worth discussing in such detail) than the substance?

See:

:anjali:
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

Postby Ben » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:21 am

Hi Christopher

Earlier I was writing a response to you but due to a transient internet glitch, my post did not make it.
To be honest with you, i was taken aback by Gregory's original post at ZFI which I believe was appropriately responded to by Lisa Mann. I feel greatly for both the Jewish and German communities. Not only for past attrocities but also for present trivialisations which add insult to injury. Let's not ever forget what Hitler was responsible for.
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Really, what can be gained by contemplating one's "inner Hitler"? To me, it seems like an exercise in imagination, speculation and projection, an exercise in distracting ourselves from the main game (if we're Buddhists), by practicing sila and the development of samadhi and panna. And the development of panna, bhavana-maya-panna, wisdom arrived at from penetrative insight into the nature of mind and matter, is from observing reality as it is, not as you would like it to be nor, as you imagine it to be.
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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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With metta,
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Re: Our Inner Hitler

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Re: Our Inner Hitler

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:30 am

Dresden without a doubt was a war crime. The descriptions of it are utterly horrifying.


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