Was Gautama really a prince?

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Re: Was Gautama really a prince?

Postby Dexing » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:46 am

I meant; "If the teaching of emptiness and emptiness itself are two different things".

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Re: Was Gautama really a prince?

Postby Indrajala » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:04 am

Ven. Huifeng and ācārya Eijo

Thanks for the pointers. :namaste:
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Re: Was Gautama really a prince?

Postby Buddhanataka » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:53 pm

The lineage of the Shakyans goes back to King Ikshvaku when Kapilavastu was first created as accounted in the Mahavastu and various similar narratives, a lineage of solar kings as they were called occasionally.

2500-3000* years of tradition has definitely established Siddhartha (Sarvarthasiddha) as the prince - kumarabhuta - of the Shakyas and John Keay for his merits will be forgotten long before Prince Siddhartha ever is.

BTW well done Huifeng interesting comments I was impressed.

*Some date the Buddha's birth as early as 930BC or thereabouts, e.g. Dudjom Rinpoche and some several Theravada sources.

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Re: Was Gautama really a prince?

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Sergeant Schultz knew everything there was to know.

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Re: Was Gautama really a prince?

Postby KathyLauren » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:41 am

I can't see that it really matters.

I, too have read that Siddhartha Gautama's father might not have been a hereditary king but may have been an elected or appointed ruler. It makes no difference. He was the son of the ruler of that particular state, and, just like the children of secular rulers anywhere, he had the best housing, the best clothing, the best food, the best education, etc. The point of the story is that he was born into a situation of privilege and gave it up to seek enlightenment. The nature of his father's office is quite unimportant.

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Re: Was Gautama really a prince?

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