Completion of the path of Tögal

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby padma norbu » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:08 pm

"Use what seems like poison as medicine. We can use our personal suffering as the path to compassion for all beings." Pema Chodron

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Pero » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:18 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Postby padma norbu » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:22 pm

there's an indian king walking around with shitty drawers? i don't believe it.
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Pero » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:23 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby padma norbu » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:34 pm

BTW, Pero, I get the point you were making, I was just saying maybe you shouldn't let it "piss you off" so much. It's not necessarily arrogant. It seems correct, actually. What doesn't seem correct is dependence on a guru; that just does not come naturally to the western mind, which is probably why westerners love so much the statement by Buddha that we should not believe anything just because he said it or anyone else said it, but because it seems reasonable to us.

Something I catch myself doing more and more these days is actually being intolerant toward ideas I used to have. When I was young and open-minded, I was very tolerant. Now, I am not. I find it hard to hold my tongue if someone expresses interest in something that seems counterproductive or just an obvious bad choice (like a wrist tattoo of something "badass") or a belief that seems silly to me (like we were "put here" to "do something") and then I stop and think that this is not ever how I wanted to be and I wonder why I am becoming like a Buddhist-oriented version of my fanatical Christian mom??? Then, I remember that I'm not supposed to be getting all involved in accepting and rejecting.
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Pero » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:37 pm

Well I couldn't find the story I was thinking of, though I did find a little similar one. I guess it's possible my memory messed things up since I read about it many years ago. But anyway, I did find which is just as good an example.
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Postby padma norbu » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:41 pm

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Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Postby Pero » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:59 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Postby padma norbu » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:44 pm

OH man, I just watched a whole special on "Genie" the wild child on YouTube. Very sad and annoying.
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby padma norbu » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:46 pm

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Malcolm » Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:49 am





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Adamantine » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:14 am

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Detachment is the final happiness. ~Sri Saraha

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby heart » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:11 am

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Pero » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:40 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby heart » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:58 pm

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby padma norbu » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:03 pm

"Use what seems like poison as medicine. We can use our personal suffering as the path to compassion for all beings." Pema Chodron

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby PadmaDrago » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:36 pm

Even fully enlightened Buddhas above the 10th bhumi can fall, once they start taking on others' karmas, if they are not careful. This is not a popular view among those who would deify the Buddhas, but it is the teachings of Swayambhunatha.

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Postby Yudron » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:56 pm

Who is Swayambhunatha and what does this have to do with the topic?
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