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Re: They killed him!

Postby mint » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:52 pm

Sönam wrote:But concerning Obama ... could he interfere? could he say, no it won't happen!, easy or not easy. If it was not for electoralist reasons, could he says no, as far as I am President no one will die from the death penalty? If he was a real great President, could he choose to act so?



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Re: They killed him!

Postby Malcolm » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:03 pm

Sönam wrote:But concerning Obama ... could he interfere? could he say, no it won't happen!, easy or not easy. If it was not for electoralist reasons, could he says no, as far as I am President no one will die from the death penalty? If he was a real great President, could he choose to act so?

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No, he can't do that. The death penalty was suspended in by the supreme court of the united states in 1972, and reauthorized by the supreme court in 1976.

It is a state by state issue and it is legal to execute prisoners for capital crimes outlined by the 1976 decision.

The President of the United States has no authority to end the death penalty unilaterally, even if he wanted to.
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Re: They killed him!

Postby Virgo » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:09 pm

Sönam wrote:But concerning Obama ... could he interfere? could he say, no it won't happen!, easy or not easy. If it was not for electoralist reasons, could he says no, as far as I am President no one will die from the death penalty? If he was a real great President, could he choose to act so?

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It's a State issue. The President, and the Federal government, have limited enumerated powers. Those powers not invested to the Fed by the Constitution are allocated to the States and the people. This is stated in the 10'th amendment to the the United States Constitution.
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Re: They killed him!

Postby alwayson » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:37 pm

Sönam wrote:But concerning Obama ... could he interfere? could he say, no it won't happen!, easy or not easy. If it was not for electoralist reasons, could he says no, as far as I am President no one will die from the death penalty? If he was a real great President, could he choose to act so?

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In America, we have this thing called "democracy".

The American President is not a monarch.
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Re: They killed him!

Postby alwayson » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:54 pm

I wonder if the French acknowledge that America saved France in World War II ?
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Re: They killed him!

Postby Sönam » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:54 pm

alwayson wrote:
Sönam wrote:But concerning Obama ... could he interfere? could he say, no it won't happen!, easy or not easy. If it was not for electoralist reasons, could he says no, as far as I am President no one will die from the death penalty? If he was a real great President, could he choose to act so?

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In America, we have this thing called "democracy".

The American President is not a monarch.


don't play it too much ! Image about democracy you still have a lot to do, as for exemple suppress the first item of your constitution "In God we Trust", and better to have real democratics elections, not "great" electors ... but there is no need to go further, we already had this discussion with some folks here (or there).

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Re: They killed him!

Postby Sönam » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:58 pm

alwayson wrote:I wonder if the French acknowledge that America saved France in World War II ?


Don't be ridiculous, everybody knows today that Russians won the war ... they do not tell you that in your books?

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Re: They killed him!

Postby Epistemes » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:58 pm

alwayson wrote:I wonder if the French acknowledge that America saved France in World War II ?


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Re: They killed him!

Postby alwayson » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:59 pm

Sönam wrote: as for exemple suppress the first item of your constitution "In God we Trust", and better to have real democratics elections, not "great" electors ... but there is no need to go further, we already had this discussion with some folks here (or there).

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You are pretty ignorant aren't you?

There is no "In God we Trust" in the constitution.

Secondly, the electoral college is only for the Presidential election. And you don't have a clue why its there.

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Re: They killed him!

Postby conebeckham » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:17 pm

Well, one thing's for sure, French Arrogance, American arrogance...it's all arrogance, isn't it? :thinking:
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Re: They killed him!

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:12 pm

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Most death penalties have occurred in the southern States of the U.S. It is a big country, not all Americans support the death penalty.
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Re: They killed him!

Postby Malcolm » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:43 pm

Sönam wrote:
don't play it too much ! Image about democracy you still have a lot to do, as for exemple suppress the first item of your constitution "In God we Trust", and better to have real democratics elections, not "great" electors ... but there is no need to go further, we already had this discussion with some folks here (or there).


""In God We Trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956. It is also the motto of the U.S. state of Florida. The phrase has appeared on U.S. coins since 1864 and on paper currency since 1957.[1] Its Spanish equivalent, En Dios Confiamos, is the motto of the Central American nation of Nicaragua.[2]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

And first part of constitution:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

No mention of God.
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Re: They killed him!

Postby alwayson » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:52 am

THIS is America:


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Re: They killed him!

Postby ajax » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:46 am

Sönam wrote:
alwayson wrote:I wonder if the French acknowledge that America saved France in World War II ?


Don't be ridiculous, everybody knows today that Russians won the war ... they do not tell you that in your books?

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Some French actually fought against allied forces in the war... according to the books.

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Re: They killed him!

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:02 am

(in response to the photo of the blonde woman flashing a peace sign)
I WISH!
You need to add about 40 cheeseburgers to that torso.

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Re: They killed him!

Postby Epistemes » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:33 am

PadmaVonSamba wrote:(in response to the photo of the blonde woman flashing a peace sign)
I WISH!
You need to add about 40 cheeseburgers to that torso.


I'll take the blonde woman and the 40 cheeseburgers, please. :namaste:

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Re: They killed him!

Postby alwayson » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:37 am

PadmaVonSamba wrote:(in response to the photo of the blonde woman flashing a peace sign)
I WISH!
You need to add about 40 cheeseburgers to that torso.

alwayson wrote:THIS is America:



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America has the hottest women in the world.

If you disagree with that, then you OBVIOUSLY did not go to major university in America for college!!!!
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Re: They killed him!

Postby justsit » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:27 pm

Went to college in America, disagree, sorry.

Labeling, lust, craving, attachment, suffering...Buddhism 101. Back to the cushion, boys.
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Re: They killed him!

Postby nirmal » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:29 pm

Justice or injustice,could it not be his Karma for them to kill him or could it not be his Karma to leave us ?
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Re: They killed him!

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:51 pm

nirmal wrote:Justice or injustice,could it not be his Karma for them to kill him or could it not be his Karma to leave us ?


Sure but karma doesn't mean we have no choice. It just means we have been given certain mental impulses.
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