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Lungta

Postby rai » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:12 pm

hi all,

need some tips and trics what to do to raise the lungta (or what to avoid)! it seems i am going down with everything =D

also i tried to understand the concept of Lungta relying on materials i've managed to find but still i have very vague idea so if you know any helpful materials, books in english it would be very appreciated.

thanks!

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Re: Lungta

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Re: Lungta

Postby Dhondrub » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:25 pm

http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Lungta

http://mangalashribhuti.cleverspin.com/ ... alha-1.pdf

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-nic ... 28769.html

What I was told was additonally to do Sang and hang Prayer Flags, was also to wear clean and dignified clothes and also to keep ones place clean, especially ones kitchen

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Re: Lungta

Postby rai » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:48 pm

thanks for all the hints!

I read some parts of Chogyam Trungpa "Shambhala - The Sacred Path of the Warrior" and "Smile at Fear". CTR talk about raising the windhorse more as invoking outer and inner "dralas", being uplifted, joyfull, without doubt etc. Is he talking about the same concept or about something else?

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Re: Lungta

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Re: Lungta

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Re: Lungta

Postby Lhug-Pa » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:18 pm

When authenticating Lungta, how exactly do we use water for the rite?

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Re: Lungta

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Re: Lungta

Postby Lhug-Pa » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:21 pm

All I know is that water is involved in the rite, but don't know how; and the Dzogchen Community Thun book doesn't explain and I don't think that the Tun DVD does either (I should double check). Maybe Chögyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche refers to it in some detail in the Namkha book....

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Re: Lungta

Postby Grigoris » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:50 pm

There is also a spcific lungta practice.

Why don't you go ask your teacher for details of the practice?
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Re: Lungta

Postby Lhug-Pa » Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:21 pm

Because since he has many many students, I'd rather first see if someone who posts here regularly and knows the answer wouldn't mind answering.

Like I said, the rite is in the Tun book but doesn't explain how the water is applied, so I should check the Thun DVD again.

Anyhow, you're right in that I should try to have a good talk with my Teacher soon, albeit not for only asking about Lungta. :anjali:

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Re: Lungta

Postby Lhug-Pa » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:42 pm

The Ritual Melodies CD has Namkha but not Lungta... Is the latter's melody the same as the former's?

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Re: Lungta

Postby Grigoris » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:21 pm

The lungta practice I am refering to is not a Dzogchen practice and is not on any cd or in any book by ChNN.
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Re: Lungta

Postby Lhug-Pa » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:09 pm

Then in that case there might be an explanation of the standard use of water for Lungta practices found in one of the following texts for example:

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/topics/riwo-sangcho

And if not, then perhaps here:

http://shangshung.org/store/index.php?m ... cts_id=272

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Re: Lungta

Postby Malcolm » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:13 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Lungta

Postby Lhug-Pa » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:23 pm

Thank you once again Namdrol.

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Re: Lungta

Postby Konchog1 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:05 am

Is the Three Whites and Sweets and different woods and so forth required for Sang? Or is just incense okay?
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Re: Lungta

Postby Malcolm » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:41 am





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Lungta

Postby Lhug-Pa » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:43 am

I've learned that Sang incense should generally include three or five ingredients. Cypress and Juniper for sure, and in fact I think that just Cypress and/or Juniper would be fine. Since I'm not allowed to burn incense where I live, I diffuse a blend of three essential oils.


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