Gong Chig in Perspective

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Gong Chig in Perspective

Postby xylem » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:19 pm

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Re: Gong Chig in Perspective

Postby kirtu » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:09 pm

xylem wrote: I also am aware that there were many critics of Jigten Sumgon's Gong Chig.


Really?

Given many of the revolutionary themes in the Gong Chig, I am curious what influence it might have had on other traditions.


Like what (revolutionary themes)?

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Re: Gong Chig in Perspective

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Re: Gong Chig in Perspective

Postby Tarpa » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:24 am

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The nonexistence of the transcendence of suffering
is what the protector of the world has taught as the transcendence
of suffering.
Knots tied on space
are untied by space itself.

May I never be seperated from perfect masters in all lives,
and delightfully experiencing the magnificent dharma,
completing all qualities of the stages of the paths
may I quickly attain the state of Vajradhara
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Re: Gong Chig in Perspective

Postby Jinzang » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:25 am

There was an influence on the other Kagyu traditions. One of the Shamar Rinpoches wrote a commentary on it. These days it seems little known outside the Drikung Kagyu. I believe that Chetsang Rinpoche revived the study of it, prior to that it was not much studied in recent times.

The Gong Chik is a collection of sayings by the founder of the Drikung Kagyu, Jigten Sumgon. Some of the sayings go against commonly held Buddhist teachings, such as pramana (buddhist epistemology) teaches the ultimate truth. (Quoted from memory, not an exact quote.)
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Re: Gong Chig in Perspective

Postby deepbluehum » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:06 am

I'm not sure whether Gong chig was the first to make use of the vajra verses format in such terse fashion. I have seen recent Nyingma masters have used this style of presentation. It seems Gong chig may have influenced a value in concise statements when describing the entire path.
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