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Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:04 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Postby retrofuturist » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:19 am

Greetings Robert,

Thank you for that, but no one here is disputing that paramitas are positive attributes, and that individually (though not necessarily as a set called paramitas) that they were taught by the Buddha. I agree with Bhikkhu Bodhi that it is hard to fathom someone becoming enlightened without at least some minimal development in this space.

This discussion is specifically about Virgo's argument that "it is possible to achieve enlightenment in this lifetime, but only if you have been developing all of the perfections for many. many lifetimes already". You are learned in the Abhidhamma and the commentaries - do you have anything that might support or refute his argument?

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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby Ben » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:27 am

Nice post Jack!
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
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