LastLegend wrote:Don't talk practice. When we have realized enlightenment we can come back and talk about all the paths not just the path we have employed.
Is there some taboo on discussions? This is a Buddhist Forum. Is it that the purpose of such a board as this is unclear? It is meant for talking about Buddhism, about Zen, etc. Questions like "why talk about this?" is saying that we should just shut down this section or even the whole forum. I doubt that's what you or those who make similar comments actually mean. But such meta-discussions like this is disrupting and very much off topic.
I am one of those who questioned (still do, in fact) the wisdom of a discussion like this one, and the tone and content thereof.
Is there a taboo on questioning certain discussions? Discussions that exist to criticize and debate the real or perceived failings and shortcomings of a tradition?
Of course this is a Buddhist forum, and of course we come here for discussion and debate, but it does not follow that all topics are appropriate. Personally I find that a discussion about the status, content and nature of what a particular tradition regards as buddhahood and how that tradition actually does not have The Real Deal as both pretentious and offensive (and it is not even my own tradition we are talking about).
You may choose to see only the academic side of the discussion, but I see something else there also. Right throughout the discussion there is a subtle comparison happening, or to paraphrase a part of the discussion we can say that "Chan's buddhahood is not what they say it is".
It is not my place or even my goal to make off-topic comments or to be disruptive, as you say these comments are, but I do believe that as a member I have the right to question whether certain topics or at least parts of their contents are appropriate. As an example, Namdrol's response to my question above in part answered my question.
You may seek to pretend that this is not the case, but this entire discussion is one of comparison, bordering on sectarian dogma, thinly veiled as an academic discussion.
Of course I can simply choose to ignore the discussion, and maybe I should, but for now I am trying to understand the policy on this type of discussion.