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State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

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State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:53 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Pax » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:32 am

Thanks for taking up the banner Ben, we've been doing a letter writing campaign on the lesbian board I frequent.

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Dan74 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:48 am

I thought that it goes without saying that this is a bizarre and barbaric proposal, and I hope the world threatens sanctions, since this is a worst kind of a violation of human rights, basically legalising genocide (except on the basis of sexuality).

I think I've already signed a petition and I will happily sign more if people have them.

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby bodom » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:06 am

Its a scary world we live in.

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:10 am

Hi Dan
I'm an advocate of writing letters directly to the ministers, the pm, and opposition spokespersons as well as the local member of parliament. I am convinced that it has an effect.

Stephen Smith, Australian minister for Foreign Affairs: Stephen.Smith.MP[a]aph.gov.au
Kevin Rudd, PM: http://www.pm.gov.au/PM_Connect/contact_your_pm_form

I intend to draft some letters tonight.
kind regards

Ben
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- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:12 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Dan74 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:15 am

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:30 am

Individual letters.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:16 am

Greetings,

Online petition here, for anyone interested...

http://www.avaaz.org/en/uganda_rights_4 ... 680&v=5391

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:32 am

Well done Retro!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby zavk » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:43 am

I'm always rendered speechless when I read about stuff like that. :(
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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Fede » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:23 pm

I think 'being rendered speechless' in this case, would be 'Wrong Speech'...It's important we all bellow our protests as loudly we can possibly can....


But I do get what you mean....... :namaste:
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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:41 pm

"The Family" is a very strange Xtian group that has close connexion to the Ugandan elite, especially those who afe spo9nsoring the kill-the-gays bill.

http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript ... =120746516

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:13 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Paññāsikhara » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:35 am

While I very much agree that such a state sponsored bill is quite inhumane and we should do what we can to protect the lives of anyone, whatever their sexual orientation, I do think that using the word "genocide" is quite incorrect and misleading. The word "genocide" is based on "geno-", implying some sort of ethnic or racial basis. By using this term, it appears to me that they are in fact playing into the (quite deluded) idea that homosexuality is a phenotype somehow encoded within a person's genotype.

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Dan74 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:55 am

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

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My recently moved Blog, containing some of my writings on the Buddha Dhamma, as well as a number of translations from classical Buddhist texts and modern authors, liturgy, etc.: .

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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

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With metta,
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Re: State sponsored genocide of gays in Uganda

Postby Dan74 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:47 am

Indeed a very dangerous line of reasoning which may well re-emerge in the future.

John Glad's book while pretty moderate may be the start of a renewal of interest in eugenics.

The core notion is that the the genetic make up of the species can and should be improved, with intelligence chosen as the "uncontroversial" example of what should be improved.



and a review (not so great, but makes some important points):



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