Pero wrote:You're missing the point. I don't doubt rainbow body is possible. I believe my teacher's uncle, my teacher's teacher's two teachers and perhaps my teacher's teacher himself all achieved rainbow body. And others before them. It would be also silly to follow teachings while not believing in the highest attainment of those teachings.
I'm not saying that Akhyuk Rinpoche didn't or did achieve rainbow body, I'm just saying that this here is a picture. I cannot see anything in this picture. I don't know anything about thrones and those ornaments (and frankly, don't really care that much to find out), like many others, I'm sure. And the fact that you ask to google about these (how can anyone google about something they don't know even what it's called?) which would then require further comparative measurements (like you and Namdrol did) only further shows that there is not much to actually clearly see in this picture. I don't believe people should just throw all their critical thinking away when it comes to Vajrayana. Or they'll end up prostrating in front of Namdrol's fellow citizen who got recognized for a tulku in his dream.
sorry if you felt harshly said. (although I didn't say it's you, did i?)
the main point i was trying to argue were two:
1. it's not totally meaningless to show the photo, unlike someone said.
2. if someone couldn't know what it is, better not to say 'impossible' before doing some effort (anyone used this word?
in the whole dialog, the word sounds like since it's wrapped with yellow silk and with many ornaments, there's no possibility to correctly measure.
in a way, yes, it's impossible to be 100% sure, because they won't let you get the lama's body out and check every hour, but surely it's possible to give you an idea of his body.
I totally agree that people should not throw away their critical thinking, i am not even saying it's wrong to doubt lama's shrinking.
but you know critical thinking should be followed by what? research.
If you don't really care that much to find out like you said, it's not wrong really. There's no such a obligation for people seeing this photo to be that interested.
(although now I think I have the obilgation to do comparison for others since i posted it, I really think i should have and i confess