Studying Nyingma

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Studying Nyingma

Postby sangyey » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:46 pm

Hi,

I am looking for some good texts/books to study in the Nyingma Lineage. I have been following a Nyingma teacher but as far as study goes it has been mainly based on Tsongkhapa's Lam Rim, Shantideva's Guide to the Bodhisattva Way of Life, and webcasts by HH Dalai Lama. If anyone has any ideas please post as others and myself can use this post in the future for reference on Nyingma study and learning.

Thank you.

~Sangyey

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby Paul » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:58 pm

This is THE Nyingma book.

http://www.amazon.com/Nyingma-School-Ti ... 0861711998

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Any of the books by Dudjom Rinpoche, Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche and Dilgo Khyenste Rinpoche are worth reading. These three teachers were actually buddhas.

Brilliant Moon (by Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche) and Blazing Splendor (by Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche) are very useful autobiographies that will give you a good idea of the main people involved in the Nyingma lineage in recent years.
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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby gnegirl » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:08 pm

"Things are not what they appear to be: nor are they otherwise." --Surangama Sutra

Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby kirtu » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:36 pm

Tulku Thondup's "Masters of Meditation and Miracles: Lives of the Great Buddhist Masters of India and Tibet" - not actually Nyingma per se but presenting the lives of 36 or so great masters in the Longchen Nyingthig lineage.

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby sangyey » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:45 pm

:anjali:

Does Nyingma utilize Atisha's lam rim system? Is there a specific commentator on it?

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby orgyen jigmed » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:14 pm

According to the Nyingma Tradition, first you must become a disciple of an 'authentic master' - who according to Patrul Rinpoche in his Kunzang lama'i Shelung, is not so easy to find during this degenerate age! Then, it is up to you to become an authentic recipient, by focusing single pointedly on his instructions.

Should you want to read more on the Nyingma path, you may also want to consult Rigdzin Jigme Lingpa's 'Entering the City of Omniscience: An aspiration prayer for actualizing the words of Truth'.

Some consider this prayer to be like a proven Nyingma road map, that guarantees the re-discovery of authentic freedom.

"If the aspiration for enlightenment is your motivation in coming to see me, there is no remedy except meditative practice. I, too, will only practice." - Zurpoche Sakya Jungne

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby ngodrup » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:20 pm

In the Nyingma tradition we use what I like to call
"reverse lam rim" in other words, the lama will try to
introduce you to Dzogchen view, if that fails, there's
Tantric view, or ngondro, or lastly Sutra studies. ;)
Joking just a little here, but it oftentimes works that way.

Anyway, Atisha's Lam Rim is mainly studied by the
Sarma. It was believed that after the supression
of Buddhism in TIbet, that original Buddhism
had become corrupted, and that therefore it was
necessary for Atisha at come and clarify how
Sutra and Tantra are compatible. Well, he met
a great yogi-scholar named Rangzom Chokyi Zangpo.
They debated and Atisha did not win! In fact he said
that had he known there were such masters in Tibet
his (Atisha's) coming would have been unnecessary.

Now, do we study sutra? Yes, definitely. But we study
our own commentarial literature such as the writings
of Longchenpa, Rangzompa, Mipham, Lochen Dharmashri,
etc. The wrote many great commentaries on Classical
Indian texts like the Madhyamakavatara as well as their
own books on tenets, etc.

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby Jinzang » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:16 am

Well regarded introductory Nyingma texts are "Words of my Perfect Teacher" and "Treasury of Precious Qualities." Beyond that, Tulku Thonup's "The Practice of Dzogchen" is the best introduction to dzogchen, though a bit hard to read on your own, For the philosophical view of Nyingma, anything by Mipham Rinpoche.
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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby sangyey » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:54 am

Is the study of Dzogchen something recommended for any level of experience? To me it seems like something that would be nice to study and learn about but I don't even practice tantra right now. Not sure if studying it from the beginning would be a good idea or is recommened as it may help establish a view about practice or if it's better just to study and practice sutra and tantra (perhaps) until one is at that level?

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby Pero » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:32 am

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Postby username » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:34 pm

Longchenpa wrote texts that made Dzogchen's lower analytical view sort of closer and more palatable to Sarma. Much later Jigmed Lingpa's introductory analytical view system is close to Gelugs (though his main teaching is his Dzogchen terma) and Dodrubchen lineage (+ Nyushols etc.) who are historically close still very much follow that. Longchenpa & Jigmed Lingpa & Rongzom are "the three all omniscient" ones of Nyingma and Jigmed Lingpa's Longchen Nyingthic and cycles of Dudjom Lingpa/Dudjom Rinpoche tersar are the big Dzogchen tantras recently but hundreds of other terma cycles exist(ed) and more to come yet as these terma were hidden mainly by Padmasambhava and Yeshe Tsogyal for different times. A true Nyingma is actually blind to schools and looks at the master, for example HHDL is a great master as was Reting or Sakya's Chokyi Lodro Khyentse and the first Great Khyentse was also one of the all time greats as was Karmapa 16 as a practitioner and master yogi and all Kagyus are close to Nyingma from Karma to Drukpa to Drikung etc. who also have terma from Lotus Born as did Sakya Khyentses. This is not just propaganda but even great historic masters and tertons like Kongtrul and Chogyur Lingpa were looking up at Buddhas like the great Khyentse and Dudjom Lingpa. So it depens on the person. The book Nangwa recommended is sort of close to a Lam Rim version of Nyingma. However Patrul's Words of My Perfect Teacher is a bigger hit for a century now though, specially after Mipham brought a lot of ideas into Nyingma that was different to the pervious ideas of the 19th/18th century (closer to Gelug system) after earlier Jigmed Lingpa. Jigmed Lingpa & Dudjoms Dzogchen terma practice cycles are still producing rainbow bodies. Ironically I'd say the 3 books by KaNying (Kagyu+Nying) masters Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche (Rainbow painting, As It Is vol.s 1 & 2) and his son Tsoknyi Rinpoche (Carefree Dignity) are the best entry to Dzogchen for the beginner as well as seasoned yogi which is the pinnacle and heart of Nyingma views and practices. They gave/give Dzogchen teaching and even Direct Introduction to all sorts of people without ngondro as does Chogyal Namkhai Norbu and as did other great masters before depending on the people they encountered. Dudjom Rinpoche & specially his son Thinley Norbu also have that ineffable truly magic touch in their books to follow on from.
Dzogchen masters I know say: 1)Buddhist religion essence is Dzogchen 2)Religions are positive by intent/fruit 3)Any method's OK unless: breaking Dzogchen vows, mixed as syncretic (Milanese Soup) 4)Don't join mandalas of opponents of Dalai Lama/Padmasambhava: False Deity inventors by encouraging victims 5)Don't debate Ati with others 6)Don't discuss Ati practices online 7) A master told his old disciple: no one's to discuss his teaching with some others on a former forum nor mention him. Publicity's OK, questions are asked from masters/set teachers in person/email/non-public forums~Best wishes

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby sangyey » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:42 pm

:anjali:

Username you stated in your above post that Nyingma's look toward the master. Is this a thing Nyingma's generally like to do perhaps a little more specifically than others school might emphasis?

Also, why is the term 'cycle' used?

and

What is Nyingma's philosophical view on emptiness or what school of Madhyamaka do they follow?

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby Paul » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:47 pm

Look at the unfathomable spinelessness of man: all the means he's been given to stay alert he uses, in the end, to ornament his sleep. – Rene Daumal
the modern mind has become so limited and single-visioned that it has lost touch with normal perception - John Michell

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Re: Studying Nyingma

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Postby username » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:44 am

Dzogchen masters I know say: 1)Buddhist religion essence is Dzogchen 2)Religions are positive by intent/fruit 3)Any method's OK unless: breaking Dzogchen vows, mixed as syncretic (Milanese Soup) 4)Don't join mandalas of opponents of Dalai Lama/Padmasambhava: False Deity inventors by encouraging victims 5)Don't debate Ati with others 6)Don't discuss Ati practices online 7) A master told his old disciple: no one's to discuss his teaching with some others on a former forum nor mention him. Publicity's OK, questions are asked from masters/set teachers in person/email/non-public forums~Best wishes


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