The Arya Sanghata Sutra

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Re: The Arya Sanghata Sutra

Postby padma norbu » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:35 pm

I recited this last night for the first time ever from 2:30am til 5:15am, approximately. I recited aloud to my cats and imagined the words were coming from Buddha himself and that I was also reciting for countless invisible beings in the various world realms. I tried this before with either this sutra or the Golden Light Sutra and got frustrated and stopped. Though it became difficult around page 30, as I was reading slow and coherently rather than just trying to read it as fast as possible, I am really glad I did not give up, even though I obviously ended up going to bed quite late.

I can't quite explain how I felt afterward and even still feel today, but I feel good. The experience has caused me to want to read more sutras even now as I am procrastinating and considering what to do with myself. I kind of want to turn on Hulu or Netflix and lay around lazily with some coffee and watch something mindless... but I feel like I would be distracted by the sutras I have which I could read.

Do the Mahayana sutras tend to have this effect? It is strange because they are repetitive and can be a little frustrating if you are trying to recite them, but then there is a feeling of general well-being and clarity afterward, at least in my experience with attempting to read a few Mahayana sutras. Avatamsaka translation by Thomas Cleary was not possible for me to finish even reading silently at this point in my life. My mind could not take it, but I do remember feeling "good" after the attempt.
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Re: The Arya Sanghata Sutra

Postby Jikan » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:25 am

Excellent, Excellent!

padma norbu wrote:Do the Mahayana sutras tend to have this effect? It is strange because they are repetitive and can be a little frustrating if you are trying to recite them, but then there is a feeling of general well-being and clarity afterward, at least in my experience with attempting to read a few Mahayana sutras. Avatamsaka translation by Thomas Cleary was not possible for me to finish even reading silently at this point in my life. My mind could not take it, but I do remember feeling "good" after the attempt.


Yes--for me they do at least. I'm always energized by reciting sutra. The more you get to know a particular one, the more you find new things in it (and it helps to copy them out by hand as well). If you can chant it rhythmically, so much the better.

I've recited the Sanghata Sutra eleven times and I never once get bored of it.

You're right when you say that the language of the translation makes all the difference. The BDK translation of the Lotus Sutra, for instance, is very chantable.
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Re: The Arya Sanghata Sutra

Postby padma norbu » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:55 am

thanks, Jikan, I just put it on my wishlist!
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Re: The Arya Sanghata Sutra

Postby tidathep » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:11 pm

Sawaddee Ka...Padma norbu/Jikan,

Me too...I love to read Suttas and love to chant a few gathas...I feel so peaceful when chanting.

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Re: The Arya Sanghata Sutra

Postby KonchokZoepa » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:56 pm

i think you ca get this sutra from FPMT store, and with only a small donation. ive read it once, its a nice sutra though but i didnt understand the how are sentient beings classified as ''young sentient beings '' and '' old sentient beings ''. it gives you a nice visualization of a buddha purifying a complete realm but your like , pleeh , like that would happen here on this planet on this day and age. its a precious gem though, very nice to be able to read it, its worth the go, maybe someday again, it describes the benefit to be massive, immeasurable basically if animal hears you recite the sutra, even one gatha. but the first and only time i have read it i was waiting and waiting for the actual teaching of the sutra to start, and then it ended, describing only the benefits of reading the sutra. which left me a bit baffled.
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Re: The Arya Sanghata Sutra

Postby padma norbu » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:18 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:i think you ca get this sutra from FPMT store, and with only a small donation. ive read it once, its a nice sutra though but i didnt understand the how are sentient beings classified as ''young sentient beings '' and '' old sentient beings ''. it gives you a nice visualization of a buddha purifying a complete realm but your like , pleeh , like that would happen here on this planet on this day and age. its a precious gem though, very nice to be able to read it, its worth the go, maybe someday again, it describes the benefit to be massive, immeasurable basically if animal hears you recite the sutra, even one gatha. but the first and only time i have read it i was waiting and waiting for the actual teaching of the sutra to start, and then it ended, describing only the benefits of reading the sutra. which left me a bit baffled.


I get the feeling a lot of these visuals are not happening in our regular karmic vision. I thought the young/old sentient beings thing was pretty interesting. Currently reading the Sutra of Golden Light out loud. I wasn't able to finish it in one sitting, but within 2 days I'll be done. They are very interesting, they fill in a lot of blanks about god realms for me.
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