Why not be a Jain

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Re: Why not be a Jain

Postby Mr. G » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:36 pm

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Re: Why not be a Jain

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:10 am

adinatha wrote:Because the merit you get from aspiration and action bodhicitta is incalculably vast. Read the Diamond Sutra. The merit that comes from saving Earth creatures is very limited in comparison and the fruit is a samsaric existence. So Buddhism has a total monopoly on incalculably vast merit that comes from bodhicitta. Arhats have similarly limited compassion but they have some realization of bodhicitta, up to the Sixth Bhumi (per Lord Jigten Sumgon's teachings).
So what you are saying is that a Christian/Muslim/Jain that devotes their life to to compassionate action without a view of emptiness does not accumulate the same merit as a (supposed) BUddhist that devotes their life to to compassionate action without a view of emptiness? Coz really, bodhicitta, without overcoming the idea of subject, object and action just ain't bodhicitta. And that is what we are discussing here. A Jain, due to a belief in a truly existent self, cannot realise emptiness and thus their accumulation of merit is limited and true compasion (apparently) does not arise. I would say thatt this is 100% the same for a (purported) Buddhist that grasps to a sense of self. No difference (except, maybe, the "saving grace" of refuge).
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Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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Re: Why not be a Jain

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:16 am

adinatha wrote:Mahayana is the 3 eons deal. If you have past life merit, then of course you can. But mahayana is not a fast path.
So what? That doesn't make it invalid.
Bodhicitta has two aspects, absolute and relative. Absolute bodhicitta is the realization of emptiness, which ripens slowly in the course of time. Relative bodhicitta is an altruism rooted in loving-kindness and compassion, as an attitude and also in action. Cultivated in depth over a long time, the practice of relative bodhicitta will transform your mind until the realization of ultimate bodhicitta dawns. Dilgo Khyentse in The Hundred Verses of Advice by Padampa Sangye

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Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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