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Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby Kare » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:23 am

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby Ben » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:29 am

Thanks Venerable Huifeng for your kind response. Unfortunately I don’t have Bhikkhu Bodhi’s In the Buddha’s Words and I believe while his notes to the Satipatthana Sutta in A translation of the Majjhima Nikaya infer the difference between the 8FP and the Satipatthanas, it isn’t as explicit as Venerable Analayo’s nor as it seems his notes in In the Buddha’s Words.
I had one of those increasingly familiar moments a few hours ago when I hit the send button and was asked to log back on (I think its my modem) and lost my response to Venerable Appichatto’s most recent post. I was inspired by Venerable Appichatto’s down-to-earth message and it reminded me that we develop knowledge and vision, ultimately, on our own – alone. And I posit that we develop knowledge and vision as a result of mainly bhavana but also verification of our understanding with "the wise". So, I personally feel indebted to the commentarians and the tradition of scholars who have helped to illuminate the path for me – and for that matter the rest of us.
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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:54 am

An interesting question in this context might be: Given Right View and sila, what is the fundamental meditative necessity for awakening?

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby Ben » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:37 am

Hi tilt

I'm keen to know what your thoughts are regarding your question. You've obviously given it some considered thought.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:31 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:28 am

• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby Ben » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:46 am

Thank you Bhante for reproducing Ven. Soma Thera's words.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:20 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Is the Satipatthana Sutta the direct path or the only path?

Postby IanAnd » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:50 pm

"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV


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