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I'm all in

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Re: I'm all in

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:15 am

I have been partial to play blackjack on occasion and roulette but not for many years, as I ended up working in the complex the casino was in so wasn't allowed in due to gambling laws there, but since I have been able to go into a casino since my move I haven't, just not interesting any more!


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Re: I'm all in

Postby Tex » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:07 pm

Yep, I play regularly. My skills are so legendary they named the game after me (Tex's Hold'em). :rofl:

Regarding poker as a form of gambling, here's my take from another thread located elsewhere on the web:

There are quite a few professional poker players who are practicing Buddhists, notably Andy Black, Men "The Master" Nguyen, David Pham, and others.

It's important to note that poker is not a pure "game of chance", it is a game of skill with an element of chance (among other elements like psychology). Poker is not like house games such as blackjack or roulette where the player is at a mathematical disadvantage and is destined to lose if he plays long enough. Those games, to me, are "gambling", as is betting on sporting events that we have no control over, and so on. I don't do any of those things.

But all players at a poker table are on an even level, relying on their own knowledge of the game and ability to play it under pressure. As for "chance" or "luck", any good player will tell you that there is no such thing as luck, there is only variance in probability over the short term, and over enough hands it disappears -- If I play against a less-skilled poker player long enough I will get all of his chips; the only thing that is determined by "luck" is how long it takes.

In my book, poker is not gambling at all, it is wagering on outcomes, much like buying real estate, stocks, or many other speculative investments.
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Re: I'm all in

Postby dumb bonbu » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:10 pm

i saw in the new year playing poker with my housemates who helped teach me the rules. i'm not a gambling/wagering person - i've never bought a lotterey ticket, bet on horses, anything. we played with super small stakes about 3 quid each and i thoroughly enjoyed it. i quit at about 3am having really bluffed ridiculously with some appalling hands (sometimes it paid off, more often than not it didn't). interestingly enough, my friend who won was the guy who folded the most frequently and bet the smallest.

what was interesting to note personally, was how the next day when i got up one of the first thoughts to pop into my head was 'that was fun, i want to do it again! real soon!' as i said, i'm not a gambling person so this was quite a surprise to me. i can quite easily see how for some people it could start out small and innocent enough like that evening and then gradually spiral into something a bit less innocent - large stakes at casinos and addiction. i'm sure there are people who can bet/wager responsibly and have no problem detatching after a game but...yeah...it was interesting for me to see how quickly i wanted another poker night.
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