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Women can't become Buddhas?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

Postby cooran » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:22 am

Hello Elohim, all,

Can you tell me , when you say this, what your meaning of the term 'buddha' is? Do you mean Arahant - as is the usage in Mahayana (still with afflictions) .... Or do you mean Sammasambuddha - the only one called a Buddha in Theravada - completely fully enlightened when the Teachings have died out? And, if you mean Sammasambuddha, are you not stating that the Buddha Gotama was wrong, or that someone deliberately altered the Suttas and the Arahants at the Councils, and later, didn't happen to notice?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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"Sabbe dhamma nalam abhinivesaya" ().

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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"Sabbe dhamma nalam abhinivesaya" ().

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:19 am

Zavk,

Well said. Thanks.

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

Postby Jechbi » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:48 am

I sense we have now changed subjects from the question, "Can a woman become a samma-sambuddha?" to the question, "Are commentators outside the Buddhist tradition as relevant and instructive as those from within it?"

Maybe a new split thread is in order?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:54 am

Greetings Jechbi,

Good thinking.... I'll leave that post there, but I'll copy and paste the content into a new thread and anyone wishing to discuss the points of view further can do so there.

Done: Here it is....

Commentators/academics from outside the Buddhist tradition
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=466

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

Postby cooran » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:57 am

Hello Zavk, all,

Sorry, I forgot I was in the "Modern" Theravada folder.

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:01 am

Greetings Chris,

No need to be sorry at all... in the Modern section, all Theravadin views and perspectives ranging from the Buddha to Buddhaghosa to Buddhadasa are all perfectly OK and on topic. Thus your comment about your preferences for traditional perspectives over secular academic ones is perfectly legitimate.

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

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Re: Women can't be enlightened?

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:10 am

we have no proof it did either, so its kinda a moot point
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