Prayer to protect the earth by one of the Dudjom Tulkus

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Re: Prayer to protect the earth by one of the Dudjom Tulkus

Postby Aemilius » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:36 pm

I hope you are right, and we can easily turn the majority or whole of humanity to vegatarian diet through education, advertising etc...
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Re: Prayer to protect the earth by one of the Dudjom Tulkus

Postby Malcolm » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:55 pm

Aemilius wrote:I hope you are right, and we can easily turn the majority or whole of humanity to vegatarian diet through education, advertising etc...


It will never happen. We live in the Kali Yuga. Things will not get better, so it is foolish to hope they will.
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Re: Prayer to protect the earth by one of the Dudjom Tulkus

Postby Aemilius » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:21 pm

Namdrol wrote:
Aemilius wrote:I hope you are right, and we can easily turn the majority or whole of humanity to vegatarian diet through education, advertising etc...


It will never happen. We live in the Kali Yuga. Things will not get better, so it is foolish to hope they will.


That is fatalistic. Why then do we make aspiration prayers, like The Aspiration of Samantabhadra, and the thousand other wishing prayers that we have in modern Buddhism, especially in Tantra and Mahayana schools??
What causes the ending of Kaliyuga?
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Re: Prayer to protect the earth by one of the Dudjom Tulkus

Postby kirtu » Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:33 pm

Aemilius wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
Aemilius wrote:I hope you are right, and we can easily turn the majority or whole of humanity to vegatarian diet through education, advertising etc...


It will never happen. We live in the Kali Yuga. Things will not get better, so it is foolish to hope they will.


That is fatalistic. Why then do we make aspiration prayers, like The Aspiration of Samantabhadra, and the thousand other wishing prayers that we have in modern Buddhism, especially in Tantra and Mahayana schools??
What causes the ending of Kaliyuga?


We primarily make these aspiration prayers to accumulate merit and to train our minds.

There are other interpretations of the Kaliyuga but all of them agree that overall things will be worse. Gelek Rinpoche has said that he thought that the Kaliyuga would progress in waves with some improvement over short periods of time but with the overall tend being negative.

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Re: Prayer to protect the earth by one of the Dudjom Tulkus

Postby Aemilius » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:36 am

kirtu wrote:
We primarily make these aspiration prayers to accumulate merit and to train our minds.

There are other interpretations of the Kaliyuga but all of them agree that overall things will be worse. Gelek Rinpoche has said that he thought that the Kaliyuga would progress in waves with some improvement over short periods of time but with the overall tend being negative.

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If I right remember there are four down ward going yugas followed by four upward going yugas, they each have a name, this sequence repeats itself within each kalpa,... so the over all trend goes like a wave, and there is a bigger wave that consists of four different kalpas, the four plus four yugas occur within each kalpa.
We must be near the beginning of the cycle of kalpas, because only four buddhas have appeared of the 1000 buddhas that are to come during this great kalpa.
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