Drikung Dzogchen Lineage

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Tashi delek,

Am interested in knowing the Drikung Kagyud Dzogchen Lineage Tree of refuge.
Me was told that many Bonpos did once " enter / were converted etc. ", the Drikung Kagyud and only over their family names is it possible to trace their roots.

Best wishes
KY

[dzoki]

Depends on which lineage you want to know. There are several lineages of Dzogchen in Drikung Kagyu, all of them are terma.
These are the tertons of Drikung Kagyu:

Drigung Gyalwang Rinchen Phuntsog also known as Drigung Ratna (16th Century).
Drigung Orgyen Nüden Dorje also known as Drigung Lho Jedrung or Lho Bongtül.
Drigung Zhabdrung Chetsang, Konchok Rinchen (16th Century).
Drigung Chungtsang, Chokyi Dragpa (17th Century).
Drigung Özer Dorje of Dri-Matak Gön
Garnor rinpoche

I don´t know whether Garnor Rinpoche has revealed any dzogchen cycle, he has a terma of wrathful Achi Drolma and Vajrakilaya.

Rinchen Phuntsok revealed the famous Damcho Gongpa Yangzab.

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Depends on which lineage you want to know. There are several lineages of Dzogchen in Drikung Kagyu, all of them are terma.
These are the tertons of Drikung Kagyu:

Drigung Gyalwang Rinchen Phuntsog also known as Drigung Ratna (16th Century).
Drigung Orgyen Nüden Dorje also known as Drigung Lho Jedrung or Lho Bongtül.
Drigung Zhabdrung Chetsang, Konchok Rinchen (16th Century).
Drigung Chungtsang, Chokyi Dragpa (17th Century).
Drigung Özer Dorje of Dri-Matak Gön
Garnor rinpoche

I don´t know whether Garnor Rinpoche has revealed any dzogchen cycle, he has a terma of wrathful Achi Drolma and Vajrakilaya.

Rinchen Phuntsok revealed the famous Damcho Gongpa Yangzab.

Tashi delek,

Thanks for these usefull informations.

- What Dzogchen teachings did these Tertons revealed?
- What was the reason to hide these teachings?
- To what do these Termas belong, Semsde, Longde or Mengagde?
- Are you a Drikungpa?

Best wishes
KY

[Malcolm]

- To what do these Termas belong, Semsde, Longde or Mengagde?
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Yangzab is described by the terton, Rinchen Phunstok, as an appendix of the Khandro Nyinthig, so it is classed as Manngag sde.

However, it mainly consists of mahāyoga and anuyoga sadhanas (three roots, shitro, protectors etc.), with only a short snying thig text for the Dzogchen section. In other words, it was used as a supplement to Khandro Nyinthig.

One of the features of Yangzab is that is has many very, very wrathful practices.

N

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dzoki wrote:
Depends on which lineage you want to know. There are several lineages of Dzogchen in Drikung Kagyu, all of them are terma.
These are the tertons of Drikung Kagyu:

Drigung Gyalwang Rinchen Phuntsog also known as Drigung Ratna (16th Century).
Drigung Orgyen Nüden Dorje also known as Drigung Lho Jedrung or Lho Bongtül.
Drigung Zhabdrung Chetsang, Konchok Rinchen (16th Century).
Drigung Chungtsang, Chokyi Dragpa (17th Century).
Drigung Özer Dorje of Dri-Matak Gön
Garnor rinpoche

I don´t know whether Garnor Rinpoche has revealed any dzogchen cycle, he has a terma of wrathful Achi Drolma and Vajrakilaya.

Rinchen Phuntsok revealed the famous Damcho Gongpa Yangzab.

Tashi delek,

Thanks for your replies.

Finally did i expect an unbroken Dzogchen lineage here like stemming from Samantabhadra in this case to the actual Lineage Master.
But this could be true in the Drikung Dzogchen lineage maybe ?


Best wishes
KY

[Pero]

Finally did i expect an unbroken Dzogchen lineage here like stemming from Samantabhadra in this case to the actual Lineage Master.
But this could be true in the Drikung Dzogchen lineage maybe ?

Dzogchen lineages are broken? What?

[adinatha]

Drikung Kagyu Dzogchen was a terma which means it's connected to Guru Padmasambhava. So it is part of an unbroken lineage. It is not the main practice of Drikung Kagyu lineage.

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Finally did i expect an unbroken Dzogchen lineage here like stemming from Samantabhadra in this case to the actual Lineage Master.
But this could be true in the Drikung Dzogchen lineage maybe ?

Dzogchen lineages are broken? What?

Tashi delek,

Thanks for your mental alertness.

Yes a Dzogchen lineage is unbroken. But i guess we deal here with an addition maybe to the main practice of the Drikung Kagyud, when i understood it well ?

Best wishes
KY

[Malcolm]

dzoki wrote:
Depends on which lineage you want to know. There are several lineages of Dzogchen in Drikung Kagyu, all of them are terma.
These are the tertons of Drikung Kagyu:

Drigung Gyalwang Rinchen Phuntsog also known as Drigung Ratna (16th Century).
Drigung Orgyen Nüden Dorje also known as Drigung Lho Jedrung or Lho Bongtül.
Drigung Zhabdrung Chetsang, Konchok Rinchen (16th Century).
Drigung Chungtsang, Chokyi Dragpa (17th Century).
Drigung Özer Dorje of Dri-Matak Gön
Garnor rinpoche

I don´t know whether Garnor Rinpoche has revealed any dzogchen cycle, he has a terma of wrathful Achi Drolma and Vajrakilaya.

Rinchen Phuntsok revealed the famous Damcho Gongpa Yangzab.

Tashi delek,

Thanks for your replies.

Finally did i expect an unbroken Dzogchen lineage here like stemming from Samantabhadra in this case to the actual Lineage Master.
But this could be true in the Drikung Dzogchen lineage maybe ?


Best wishes
KY

Yangzab lineage is Samantabhadra, Vajrasattva, Garab Dorje, Shri Singha, Padmasambhava, Prince Mutig Tsadpo (Senalak) --> Drikung Rinpoche Phuntsok etc.

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Namdrol wrote:
Yangzab lineage is Samantabhadra, Vajrasattva, Garab Dorje, Shri Singha, Padmasambhava, Prince Mutig Tsadpo (Senalak) --> Drikung Rinpoche Phuntsok etc.

Tashi delek,

Thanks for your elucidations about the Dzogchen lineage within Drikung Kagyud.

So when i did understood it well, then Drikung has Dzogchen teachings not based on Mahamudra and they have Mahamudra.


Now are my questions:

- In case they give practise is this primary based on Mahamudra ?
- Do they then proceed with Dzogchen as the final goal?
- How are these complete circel of teachings called, Mahamudra + Dzogchen?
- Do they have dark retreat?

Thanks in advance for your attention

Best wishes
KY

[adinatha]

In case they give practise is this primary based on Mahamudra ?
- Do they then proceed with Dzogchen as the final goal?[/color]

No. These two lineages are kept rather separate. The current lineage holder, Gelong Tashi Rabten, is not a Dzogchen practitioner. His practice is 100% Mahamudra.