Saraha, Moksaragupta and Dzogchen

[Malcolm]

Nyingma and Kagyu produce more realized masters. It's not a bunch of crap.

It's a bunch of crap. You only say this because you are completely unfamiliar with the annals of Gelug masters.

N

[adinatha]

Nyingma and Kagyu produce more realized masters. It's not a bunch of crap.

It's a bunch of crap. You only say this because you are completely unfamiliar with the annals of Gelug masters.

N

I'm not familiar with the annals of Gelug masters. I concede that. Good for them.

[dzoki]

There is a Prajapati lineage 2500 years. Anyway who has the repa lineage in Kagyu? I think Drukpa. It think it's small now.

Not really, Drukpas mostly have togdens nowadays, Barom Kagyu is really a repa lineage. Even today there are several repas of Barom Kagyu in Tibet.

Nyingmapas never had repas. That is strictly a Kagyu thing.

N

What about Dungtso Repa, the later?

[gnegirl]

Hey the soaps are getting dramatic!

[adinatha]

:popcorn: Hey the soaps are getting dramatic!

No. I think they just ended.

[Malcolm]

There is a Prajapati lineage 2500 years. Anyway who has the repa lineage in Kagyu? I think Drukpa. It think it's small now.

Not really, Drukpas mostly have togdens nowadays, Barom Kagyu is really a repa lineage. Even today there are several repas of Barom Kagyu in Tibet.

Nyingmapas never had repas. That is strictly a Kagyu thing.

N

What about Dungtso Repa, the later?

Not familiar with his Namthar.

N

[gnegirl]

:popcorn: Hey the soaps are getting dramatic!

No. I think they just ended.

Nope, and i think you're hogging the Diet Coke again.

[seraphim]

So Tokdens are different from repas? Thay all engage in extensive Tsa Lung retreats right?

[Malcolm]

So Tokdens are different from repas? Thay all engage in extensive Tsa Lung retreats right?

Togdens are usually monks, who do not cut their hair after retreat. But not always.

[conebeckham]

The Togdens I know of, those in Himachal Pradesh, are Drukpa Kagyu, and they practice Chakrasamvara and Vajrayogini, and the associated completion stages, which include TsaLung practices of course.
They do wear cotton shawls, so I suppose you could call them Repas, I'm not sure if there's a tradition of distinguishing "repas" proper, from any cotton-clad yogis. And, yes, Togdens maintain monastic vows, as well as the Bodhisattva and Tantric vows and commitments.

They also practice some Nyingma terma, as do all the Drukpas, really....Guru Drakmar, and the practices of Lama Gongdu, are held in high esteem by the Drukpas.

[Clarence]

More info on Tashi Jong togdens:

http://togdens.net/