Sunyata and dependent origination

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Dechen Norbu » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:23 pm

The propositions of the tetralema are to be taken entirely, not standing alone.
Besides, they are non affirmative negations.

Is takes to eternalism and is not to annihilationism.
Things function. This doesn't mean they ultimately exist or have any existence beyond appearances. Neither that they only lack inherent existence, as Gelugpas prefer.

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Malcolm » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:45 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:08 pm

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The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Malcolm » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:15 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Malcolm » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:43 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:48 am

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The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby muni » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:06 am

Understanding emptiness: free of assertions (the three principles of the path).

Those who assert dependent phenomena
As like moons in water,
As not real and not unreal,
Are not tricked by views.

Nagarjuna.
http://www.emptinessteachings.com/Empti ... hings.html

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Malcolm » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:40 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:23 am

Profile Picture: "The Foaming Monk"
The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Sönam » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:31 am

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
- Longchen Rabjam -

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Malcolm » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:18 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:10 pm

Profile Picture: "The Foaming Monk"
The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Malcolm » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:50 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:34 pm

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The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Malcolm » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:44 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:05 pm

Profile Picture: "The Foaming Monk"
The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:13 pm

So, is it possible experience something that isn't there, if the fact that it is not there is the result of conditions?

For example, what about a
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Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Re: Sunyata and dependent origination

Postby Dexing » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:35 am

nopalabhyate...


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