Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

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Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby amit.sharma623 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:00 am

Hi All,

I am relatively new to meditation, I have been doing mindfulness of breathing for past 3 months but for some few weeks when I am in meditation session after few minutes the area of forehead and eyes become very heavy and I feel a force is pulling that area. Please give any suggestions about it, is it normal to feel heaviness or something is wrong in my meditation, I always keep my mind-body relax in session.

Please share some experience and advice on this issue.

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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Sherab Dorje » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:14 am

Hello Amit!
Do you have your eyes open or closed while meditating? Prefer open and try to "focus" higher and not towards the ground so much.
Have you been getting enough sleep lately? If not, then get plenty of rest.
What time are the sessions? Try to do them earlier and not nighttime when you may be tired.
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby amit.sharma623 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:29 am

Thanks a lot for your reply I appreciate it a lot. I do meditation in the morning and in evening with eyes closed , yes I get proper sleep. I have read that when you do meditation and the energy starts to flow u feel the heaviness in head region but in my case after the session I feel the heaviness for long time even at work.

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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Sherab Dorje » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:30 am

What do you mean by heaviness? Like your mind is dull? Like tired?
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Kyosan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:00 pm

Here's a funny picture of Mara trying to distract Buddha while he is meditating.

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Distractions when we meditate are a very normal thing. I would say, just relax and refocus on your breathing.
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby LastLegend » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:07 pm

Can you detach by sitting in one place?

Can you achieve peace by imagining yourself into it?
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Kyosan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:45 pm

amit.sharma623 wrote:Thanks a lot for your reply I appreciate it a lot. I do meditation in the morning and in evening with eyes closed , yes I get proper sleep. I have read that when you do meditation and the energy starts to flow u feel the heaviness in head region but in my case after the session I feel the heaviness for long time even at work.

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While meditating, do you feel stress?
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Enochian » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:30 am

Embrace it

In meditation you can actually make the whole body go asleep, yet the mind stays awake

numerous psychic powers can then be accessed
There is an ever-present freedom from grasping the mind.

Mind being defined as the thing always on the Three Times.
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Sherab Dorje » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:01 am

Enochian wrote:Embrace it

In meditation you can actually make the whole body go asleep, yet the mind stays awake

numerous psychic powers can then be accessed
Says who? Like, do you have a reference for this?
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Enochian » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:53 pm

The Dalai Lama for one. He calls it the Clear Light of Sleep.
There is an ever-present freedom from grasping the mind.

Mind being defined as the thing always on the Three Times.
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Dechen Norbu » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:08 pm

There are several siddhis that can be attained through meditation, but it is not something that will happen unless one put some years into it, some of them probably in retreat conditions.
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:14 am

Enochian wrote:The Dalai Lama for one.
He calls it the Clear Light of Sleep.
This is the specific outcome of a specific meditative technique, the OP was not referring to this practice AND the specific outcome cannot be generalised to all cases of meditation n.
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:06 pm

Yes, that's the case.
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby gena1480 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:28 pm

hello i have to say that your meditation is going very good
let me correct myself the heaviness is earth element
the pulling together is the water element
the function of water element is to hold matter together or make them loose
you should concentrate on spreading what ever you experiencing , all over the body using breath
try to get element/s balance once you there, let go of the elements and focus on balance
once you there, let go of the focus
the next step would be letting go of the balance
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby AdmiralJim » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:18 am

Hi All,

I am relatively new to meditation, I have been doing mindfulness of breathing for past 3 months but for some few weeks when I am in meditation session after few minutes the area of forehead and eyes become very heavy and I feel a force is pulling that area. Please give any suggestions about it, is it normal to feel heaviness or something is wrong in my meditation, I always keep my mind-body relax in session.

Please share some experience and advice on this issue.

Regards
Amit


Hi Amit, good to hear from you, the important thing is to keep at it. I have experience of this and of being easily startled. It is a symptom of mental dullness during the meditation session. Remedies for it are to make sure your posture is ok and nice and straight. if this doesn't help make sure you are wearing loose cool clothing, open a window or door to allow a light breeze into the room. if this doesn't work take a damp cool facecloth and rub it on your face or splash cold water onto your face. if that fails just take a short break and come back to it later.

hope it goes well!!!
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Re: Head and eyes becomes very heavy while meditation

Postby Tarpa » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:14 am

Reflecting on attaining a precious human life, preciousness of dharma, of ability and leisure to practice etc. helps uplift the mind, keeping your eyes slightly open may help, just let them relax into being slightly open gazing down sort of along the angle of your nose but not focusing on anything, also this short visualization may help - visualize a white lotus at heart level at center of chest, just a simple 4 petal lotus with a very bright small white light on top of the lotus about the size of a pea, stabilize that a bit especially the brightness of it and then visualize the little white light shooting up from the lotus through the top of your head and way up into space and rest in that, repeat as necessary.
To counteract excitement reflect on karma and the unsatisfactoriness of samsara, this has a tendency to depress the mind, or visualize an upside down black lotus at heart level with a small black drop on it and shoot the black drop down through your body and into the ground.
Also raising the gaze counteracts lethargy and lowering it counteracts excitement.
To counteract lethargy if meditating on a visualization raise the focus to upper part of visualization, to counteract excitement lower focus to lower part for a while.
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