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Postby PadmaVonSamba » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:39 pm

Are you a Buddhist during moments when you are not thinking about it?
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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby Josef » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:44 pm

yes.
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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby Astus » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:50 pm

Do you often think about being human? Nevertheless, it is a good question you made. Without establishing a concept there's no identification with it.
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T51n2076, p461b24-26)
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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:58 pm

This is one of my favorite questions.
If a person asks me, "are you a Buddhist?" then I have to consider my answer.
If I say "I am" then who is I and want does am mean?
In Nepal, they say "dharma person".
Maybe an active verb, such as "follow" is more appropriate.
Can I follow the Dharma when I am not thinking about it? I hope so.

So, I ask if you are a Buddhist when you are not thinking about it, in the context of the idea that any sense of identification is a projection of the mind.
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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby Sherab Dorje » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:59 pm

PadmaVonSamba wrote:Are you a Buddhist during moments when you are not thinking about it?
Depends what you mean by the question "are you a Buddhist".
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"When one is not in accord with the true view
Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby kalden yungdrung » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:03 am

PadmaVonSamba wrote:Are you a Buddhist during moments when you are not thinking about it?



Tashi delek,

Regarding Dzogchen one is realising Buddhahood inside the base of non-thinking or where there is/are no thoughts (hunting/grasping).
The question could be is a Dzogchenpa a Buddhist?


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IF HE DOES NOT APPLY HIS KNOWLEDGE
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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:23 pm

Yes, since the fruit of the practice is Buddhahood.
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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby kalden yungdrung » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:36 pm

Dechen Norbu wrote:Yes, since the fruit of the practice is Buddhahood.



Tashi delek,

Good answer i like that.

But i would say that the fruit of Buddhist practice will result in Buddhahood.
I don't know if others can attain with their practice Buddhahood, whereas all sentient beings posess the Sugathagarba.......

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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:47 am

kalden yungdrung wrote:
Dechen Norbu wrote:Yes, since the fruit of the practice is Buddhahood.



Tashi delek,

Good answer i like that.

But i would say that the fruit of Buddhist practice will result in Buddhahood.
I don't know if others can attain with their practice Buddhahood, whereas all sentient beings posess the Sugathagarba.......

Best wishes
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I think Bonpos may attain Buddhahood too. To me that makes them Buddhist. It's a label. Call them practitioners of the teachings of the enlightened instead of Buddhists. I never liked the word "Buddhism" anyway. It's a western neologism that says very little about the Buddhadharma. :smile:
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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby KeithBC » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:55 am

PadmaVonSamba wrote:Are you a Buddhist during moments when you are not thinking about it?

Buddhism is not so much what I think about, but more how I think. So, yes.

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Re: Are you a buddhist when...

Postby The bags » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:45 pm

PadmaVonSamba wrote:Are you a Buddhist during moments when you are not thinking about it?


There is no such thing as Buddhist .....in Buddha there should not be any form of class or nature . We are learning in our own speed , ways to understand all our pollutants and to eliminate it . There is no "thinking", no "acting" or no "practicing" Buddhism but an understanding of our pollutants and process of elimination to be closer to Buddha.
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