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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:58 pm 
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In Dzogchen, is it okay to recite mantras silently or is it necessary to do so out-loud for it to be effective? I am specifically interested in ChNN's teaching on this if possible.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:55 am 
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The Ticking Man wrote:
In Dzogchen, is it okay to recite mantras silently or is it necessary to do so out-loud for it to be effective? I am specifically interested in ChNN's teaching on this if possible.

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Tashi delek,

I don't know mantra reciting in Dzogchen, thought it does belong to Tantra or Sutra Tradition.
Know only the word phat which has to be said loud.
But maybe that ChNN has so his methods, that could be of course.

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The Ticking Man wrote:
In Dzogchen, is it okay to recite mantras silently or is it necessary to do so out-loud for it to be effective? I am specifically interested in ChNN's teaching on this if possible.

Thank you in advance for responding.


My teacher emphasizes that mantras are to be done out loud. The sound resonates with and benefits the world around it.
:namaste:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:08 am 
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lisehull wrote:
The Ticking Man wrote:
In Dzogchen, is it okay to recite mantras silently or is it necessary to do so out-loud for it to be effective? I am specifically interested in ChNN's teaching on this if possible.

Thank you in advance for responding.


My teacher emphasizes that mantras are to be done out loud. The sound resonates with and benefits the world around it.
:namaste:



Tashi delek,

One of my teachers gave the advice to do it loud and then more less loud untill it is turning like a wheel silent in the heart.
Then in the practice it goes round and round without reciting it loud. Sometimes it is difficult to stop this inner sound.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:02 am 
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Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate it.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:37 am 
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The Ticking Man wrote:
Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate it.



Generally speaking, in Dzogchen Community deity mantras like Simhamukha, etc are done quietly, under the breath, not out loud.

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Namdrol,

Thank you for the helpful information. I appreciate your posts on this message board very much.


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