BFS wrote:"Is mindfulness wholesome in and of itself?

TMingyur wrote:BFS wrote:"Is mindfulness wholesome in and of itself?
How could it? "Mindfulness" is not necessarily "right mindfulness" and does not exist inherently. It is "right" depending on "right view".
Luke wrote:Mindfulness is certainly always useful, except perhaps when sleep or resting.
However, if "wholesome" is taken to mean "creates good karma," I think that the karma created depends not only on the action performed, but on the intention of the person before the action and the feelings in his or her mind after the action is performed (i.e. running over a dog by accident won't generate as much bad karma as killing it intentionally and taking pleasure in it afterward would).
gabrielbranbury wrote:If your strategy to avoid the results of intentional action is to do everything by accident then you will never really be sure that this strategy works and Im guessing it wont bring as much happiness more often than not.
Luke wrote:gabrielbranbury wrote:If your strategy to avoid the results of intentional action is to do everything by accident then you will never really be sure that this strategy works and Im guessing it wont bring as much happiness more often than not.
I never meant that doing bad things by accident would allow someone to escape the effects of karma. All I meant was that the karma created would be somewhat less negative if a person peformed the bad action with less negative intentions.
gabrielbranbury wrote:I understand. What I am saying is regardless of what is happening with your intention Smrti is a quality which is always preferable to a lack of it. Without smrti there is no understanding or even recollection of the continuity of cause and effect. For example when the unenlightened Milarepa recognized the terrible effects of his black magic not only on others but in his own mind stream, it was made possible by the presence of some level of smrti during and after committing those deeds. This realization brought about his fervent pursuing of the Dharma and led to one of the greatest enlightened masters ever (in my opinion).
Luke wrote:I'm not familiar with the term "smrti." I googled it and it seems like it's a Hindu term which translates to something like "ethical awareness." Have Buddhists ever used this term? Even if not, I can see how "ethical awareness" or perhaps "absence of ignorance" could help a person and be relevant to buddhism. Perhaps this term refers to how the paramita of ethics prepares one to achieve the paramita of wisdom.
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