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Can we ever really understand consciousness?
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Re: Can we ever really understand consciousness?
by gnegirl » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:45 pm
My favorite soap!
"Things are not what they appear to be: nor are they otherwise." --Surangama Sutra
Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?
Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?
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Re: Can we ever really understand consciousness?
by heart » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:11 pm
gnegirl wrote:My favorite soap!
I prefer Game of Thrones.
/magnus
"The direct, hard to understand, subtle field of knowing, the Great Path, is non-conceptual (akalpana), and entirely beyond the grasp of intellectual thought. Divorced from verbal ideation, it is difficult to point out and as difficult to enquire into. It cannot be communicated through words and [therefore] is not within the scope of the neophyte (adikarmika). Nevertheless the path is to be approached through studying scriptures (sutra) of the World-Teacher and following the personal instructions (upadesa) of one's Guru-ji."
Bodhicittabhavana by Acarya Sri Manjusrimitra
Bodhicittabhavana by Acarya Sri Manjusrimitra
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Re: Can we ever really understand consciousness?
by adinatha » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:16 pm
5heaps wrote:they are different things, they exist as separate things by definition. perhaps what youre trying to say is that in order for mind to arise it needs an object to engage with (ie. cognition is not possible without cognition of something). but this still doesnt explain how mind is like "the illusion of space", which is an ontological statement, rather than a statement about its productionadinatha wrote:If you have an idea that there is space, then yes. How do you separate space from your awareness? Impossible. These two are co-emergent.
subject and object are interdependent.
CAW!
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Re: Can we ever really understand consciousness?
by gnegirl » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:01 am
heart wrote:gnegirl wrote:My favorite soap!
I prefer Game of Thrones.
/magnus
more drama here
"Things are not what they appear to be: nor are they otherwise." --Surangama Sutra
Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?
Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?
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gnegirl - Posts: 386
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